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Post by jimpres on Jan 5, 2006 13:06:01 GMT -7
Franek,
It's all those stereotype movies of cops and twinkies that did it.
Jim
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Post by franek80 on Jan 5, 2006 14:25:11 GMT -7
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Post by piwo on Jan 5, 2006 18:20:04 GMT -7
Yes, exactly Franek!
just something to give you the melody. I'm not sure which song that is to, but that's what I was trying to find..
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Post by rdywenur on Jan 5, 2006 19:38:13 GMT -7
Franek.....on SundayMorning shouldn't you have been in church praying instead of drinking? ;D
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Post by Eric on Jan 7, 2006 4:12:54 GMT -7
Eric, Fascinating that an anti-religious country (under communism)would keep such a word with religious overtones on the calendar. The history of religion in the USSR is quite interesting. Unlike in some other socialist countries, religion in the USSR was never officially banned, but, of course, the government was very anti-religious. On the other hand, during the revolution Lenin appealed to religion, especially to the Muslims, to encourage expansion of the Soviet system throughout the country. Also, during WWII, Stalin encouraged religion as a way to unite the country against the Nazis. Also, the Soviet government allowed the 1000th anniversary of the Orthodox religion to be publically celebrated. Also, did you know... the Orthodox Church was financially supported by the Soviet government? And yes, even in large cities like Leningrad, monistaries and churches functioned, such as the Alexander Nevskiy cathedral in the center of the city. In the USSR, one day per page calendars were popular, and there were several examples of religious-themed calendars, including saints' names days, old religious holidays, and so on. A professor of mine has saved a copy she bought in the 1960s.
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Post by Eric on Jan 7, 2006 4:15:04 GMT -7
Another example of religious history in the USSR... for quite a while, even before the end of the imperialist system, there was no "Patriarch of Moscow and all Russia" in the country. But beginning in the 1940s, the post was reinstated. The current patriarch, Alexei II, who was born in Tallin, received all of his religious training in the Soviet Union.
So, the Soviet government both denounced religion as the "opiate of the masses", but also allowed a certain amount of religious activity to exist in the country.
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Post by Jaga on Jan 7, 2006 9:39:31 GMT -7
Eric,
thanks! Yes, you are right that the situation of the church in the Soviet Union was quite peculiar. THe church did not have realy any power but then it was tolerated to the certain degree, especially when Soviet Union state was in a danger. Still, the orthodox church seem to be very understanding towards its state, I would say - too understanding. It treats Catholic church as a worse enemy of Orthodox church than the communistic state.
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Post by Eric on Jan 11, 2006 5:00:35 GMT -7
Think of it this way... the current patriarch is still a product of the Soviet system. Maybe the successor after his successor, who by then will probably have been educated after the USSR, will be more open towards reconciliation with Catholics.
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Post by Jaga on Jan 11, 2006 9:01:39 GMT -7
Think of it this way... the current patriarch is still a product of the Soviet system. Maybe the successor after his successor, who by then will probably have been educated after the USSR, will be more open towards reconciliation with Catholics. The pope is also German not Polish - so I believe that this would help since Russians and Germans can easier to find a dialogue than Russians and Poles. Russians have less prejudice towards a German pope. One of thepatriarchs already talked how eager he is to meet with him
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Post by Jaga on Jan 11, 2006 20:50:18 GMT -7
It is amazing but it looks as like even Hungarians took their days of the week (at least some) from Slavs:
Wednesday ----- in Polish: sroda; in Hungarian: Szerda Thursday----- in Polish: czwartek; in Hungarian: Csütörtök Friday----- in Polish: piatek; in Hungarian: Péntek
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Post by suzanne on Jan 11, 2006 21:02:58 GMT -7
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