forza
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Post by forza on Dec 3, 2005 14:15:07 GMT -7
There is a rise in antyamericanism in Poland too. Perhaps to call it antyamericanism is way to much. It is getting fashionable to complain on naivety of American culture, its celebrities and of course politics - especially among the young ones. As you may imagine It comes from the western part of continent to eastern. With time more Poles will be more and more critical of America. But still saying you're from US brings a welcoming smile on most faces in Poland. The point about Hollywood is that in US you easily know what is "a movie reality only" and you know what has no place in real live. In other countries they have no way to make that judgment. What I am observing in Poland is a mixture of admiration toward America and atemtps of being critical. Both stands usually have weak arguments and it is not due to people! but rather to information overload about US we get here.  |
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Pawian
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Post by Pawian on Dec 3, 2005 14:25:52 GMT -7
Yes Jerzy, Let's speak up this uncomfortable truth in front of our American friends here: Europe is a bunch of narrow minded nationalists. SO true! Unfortunately, Poland has its share in this European nationalism. I don`t like when Poles use derogatory names for other nationalities, e.g Ruskis for Russians, Pepiks for the Czech. |
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aadam
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Post by aadam on Dec 4, 2005 4:40:31 GMT -7
Adam, if we had border with Hungary it was through countries ... we were occupying. Slovakia was usually in the middle. referring to the France and Germany - you know better than me that they were always enemies in the past. The same is true about France and England. England wanted actually to keep Germany stronger (after WW I) so that France would not become too strong Jaga, what countries and when did we occupy through which we bordered what's Hungary today? Yes, you're right France and Germany (as well as Norway and Sweden) were grave enemies in the past, now they are befriended and live in peace. That is why I have named them here ----> to demonstrate 'the enemy through immediate border' hypothesis' weak points. Besides, I am of the opinion, that both Poland in Germany and Germany in Poland do have a friend , not a foe. |
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aadam
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Post by aadam on Dec 4, 2005 4:43:23 GMT -7
Yes Jerzy, Let's speak up this uncomfortable truth in front of our American friends here: Europe is a bunch of narrow minded nationalists. SO true! But hey! we are less racist then Americans are. Forza, the Europeans are no exception at all, there's a lot of narrow-minded nationalism in US, too! |
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forza
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Post by forza on Dec 4, 2005 5:17:05 GMT -7
I dare to disagree Adam.
Nationality in US has almost no importance at all. In fact many Americans realize that are Americans when abroad.
Perhaps it is due to linguistics as I suppose "American" in English language is an adjective first of all and secondly a noun. In polish we express our nationality with a noun and that must have its impact, right?
There are plenty of narrow minded Americans sure but they don't usually care about one's nationality but rather one's race.
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Post by Jaga on Dec 4, 2005 15:34:37 GMT -7
Forza,
I agree with you again. I also believe that Americans are much less racist that people in any European country. Of course you have exceptions but Americans learn to live in a plural society much better than other nations, although they still complain that they are racists....
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