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Post by bescheid on Dec 9, 2005 17:15:25 GMT -7
John
Please do forgive me for butting in on conversation between your self and Jaga. I mean only to update for only a minute on the Polish fellow and the Chinese lady in question.
I remember the post questions some time ago on the Bella web site. The young lady was very sensitive and poised some honest questions of what she should do in concerns of a relationship she had with a married Polish national. Unfortunately I do not remember the exact wording of her (Chinese lady) post but, she was very upset and confused as to the actions of her love interest.
What I do remember of it though, was the guy was married and playing around with the ladies heart with promises she believed in. At the moment I fail to remember the out come, but, it was very sensitive and heart breaking following her post.
It is my true belief that your situation John, was and is the act of an honest man, you had no idea the lady in your life then was married or, in later times, that both of you had a child, unitll you were notified in later years.
I would well emagine, your life has been blessed with how time has brought to you in it's own time, the out come of that past relationship.
Matters of the heart, by nature, are fraught with possible disaster at ever turn.
Now then, If I have spoken out of turn, please do forgive my intrusion for I mean no harm.
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Dec 9, 2005 21:03:58 GMT -7
We had once a girl from Botswana (Africa) participating in the forum, as for Asians... they contact us when they feel in love with some Polish jerks like this last girl from CHina if you remember Jaga, Do I detect a touch of sarcasm there. Jerk ? Many, many years ago I fell in love with a beautiful woman of Chinese, Japanese, Hawaiian extraction. When I came home she, on occasion, would dance the Hula. Her beautiful blue-black hair came all the way down to her buns. This didn't pan out as I found out that she was married to a person who was working on another island in the Pacific. 35 years later I received a phone call from a person who claimed she was my daughter. As it turned out she was right. Her stepfather, on his deathbed, told her I was her father. We communicated and she came here for a visit. It was absolutely beautiful. I had no idea. My wife at the time was 14 years old. She did not have a problem with this except how I was going to react. Now I have a beautiful daughter, son-in-law and three great grandkids who are native Hawaiians and are absolutely beautiful. My only regret is that I probably will never see them before I die. So, the moral of this long story is, not all Polacks who date Chinese women are jerks !!!!!! unless you consider me one . Guys, John, Charles sorry about using the word "jerks" but some men try to have a romance with the foreign naive ladies in the way.... that they behave like the jerks, this last Chinese girl found us in the Bella forum, her messages are still there. The guy was married but he lied to her so how should I call him John.... what a story from dancing Hula! You definitively should see your gradnkids more often!
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Post by Eric on Dec 10, 2005 5:13:10 GMT -7
Beautiful Europe
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Post by justjohn on Dec 10, 2005 6:08:04 GMT -7
Nobody spoke out of turn nor ill in any way. Here is a photo of my daughter Jamie when she was visiting 2 years ago. I only wish she could have been more a part of our lives.
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Post by nancy on Dec 10, 2005 7:02:34 GMT -7
John,
Your daughter Jamie is really beautiful! It is good that she found you, and that your family embraced her.
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Post by franek80 on Dec 10, 2005 9:28:45 GMT -7
SKETTER, GEEZE WHAT A BEAUTIFUL GIRL.. i SEE SOME OF YOU IN HER.. I MISSED THE STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.NO NEED TO REPEAT IT.. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MUST HAVE BEEN A SAD EVENT
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Post by bescheid on Dec 10, 2005 9:43:24 GMT -7
Jaga, Do I detect a touch of sarcasm there. Jerk ? Many, many years ago I fell in love with a beautiful woman of Chinese, Japanese, Hawaiian extraction. When I came home she, on occasion, would dance the Hula. Her beautiful blue-black hair came all the way down to her buns. This didn't pan out as I found out that she was married to a person who was working on another island in the Pacific. 35 years later I received a phone call from a person who claimed she was my daughter. As it turned out she was right. Her stepfather, on his deathbed, told her I was her father. We communicated and she came here for a visit. It was absolutely beautiful. I had no idea. My wife at the time was 14 years old. She did not have a problem with this except how I was going to react. Now I have a beautiful daughter, son-in-law and three great grandkids who are native Hawaiians and are absolutely beautiful. My only regret is that I probably will never see them before I die. So, the moral of this long story is, not all Polacks who date Chinese women are jerks !!!!!! unless you consider me one . Guys, John, Charles sorry about using the word "jerks" but some men try to have a romance with the foreign naive ladies in the way.... that they behave like the jerks, this last Chinese girl found us in the Bella forum, her messages are still there. The guy was married but he lied to her so how should I call him John.... what a story from dancing Hula! You definitively should see your gradnkids more often! Jaga Only speaking for my self, I think you used the most appropriate name for this person. If he acts like a jerk, talks like a jerk, Then He must be a Jerk. Just my thoughts Charles
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Post by bescheid on Dec 10, 2005 9:48:53 GMT -7
John
What a lovely daughter you have! You are proud and deservingly so.
Some times we mortals wonder, for why we must travell a certain path in life, but, time has a manner of disclosing reason and truth.
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Dec 10, 2005 12:53:28 GMT -7
John,
she looks beautiful really! Your story is amazing I wonder why her mother did not contact you early. She had a hard time to raise a child by herself. I know from my own experience, it is tough to be a single mother, not that I was one, but whenever my husband is not around I have so much more work to do.
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Post by leslie on Dec 10, 2005 13:57:55 GMT -7
Jaga You continue to astound me. All the married women I know say that they have MORE work to do when their husbands are there! Leslie (I have to do it all by myself, all the time!)
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Post by leslie on Dec 10, 2005 14:00:14 GMT -7
John Can I a little belatedly say that I think too that your daughter is beautiful (even if this means agreeing with Charles!!!!! You must be, and obviously are, very proud of her. Leslie
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Post by bescheid on Dec 10, 2005 16:16:21 GMT -7
Leslie
I want to let you know, that remark did not go un-noticed...But, as a Brit that you are, it must be forgiven for you know not..
Charles (Teutonic in Ami land)
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Post by pieter on Dec 10, 2005 16:27:32 GMT -7
Skeeter/Just John,
Jamie is a lovely brunette and has a beautiful natural smile, face and theath. Not many people can smille like that authentically. She looks like a young woman in Arnhem I liked very much. You must have been very happy when she was visiting you 2 years ago. And I hope that you are able to visit her in Hawai. My sister lives in Cape town South Africa, and I wish too that she was more a part of our family life, but there are 16.000 kilometers (10.000 miles in American terms) between us. And with my low income I do not have the chance to visit her very often. After 19 years together in Vlissingen (in the South-West of Holland) and two years in Amsterdam (we lived together when we studied in Amsterdam), such a distance is difficult. Exept brother and sister we are good friends, and we shared a social life in Amsterdam. My girlfriends became her girlfriends and they are missing her even more than I do.
Pieter
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Post by justjohn on Dec 11, 2005 5:58:57 GMT -7
John What a lovely daughter you have! You are proud and deservingly so. Some times we mortals wonder, for why we must travell a certain path in life, but, time has a manner of disclosing reason and truth. Charles ;D There is more to this. When my daughter was told that I was her father, she had an old address for my parents house in Connecticutt. She called there and asked for me. My mother, being elderly, thought she was just another person looking for me. So she said I live in New Hampshire and hung up. Now Jamie gets in touch with the AT&T operator and they decide to try and look me up. Concord is the state capital so they will look there first. On the very first try, up pops my name. Not very surprising since I am the only Murawski in the state and I happen to live in Concord. Five years had passed from our first communication. Many phone calls and letters and packages before she arrived for a trip. God, my heart was beating a mile a minute. Then, there she is. A beautiful soul just wanting to be loved. That was a very happy week in our lives. Then she had to return
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Post by justjohn on Dec 11, 2005 7:44:58 GMT -7
Skeeter/Just John, Jamie is a lovely brunette and has a beautiful natural smile, face and theath. Not many people can smille like that authentically. She looks like a young woman in Arnhem I liked very much. You must have been very happy when she was visiting you 2 years ago. And I hope that you are able to visit her in Hawai. My sister lives in Cape town South Africa, and I wish too that she was more a part of our family life, but there are 16.000 kilometers (10.000 miles in American terms) between us. And with my low income I do not have the chance to visit her very often. After 19 years together in Vlissingen (in the South-West of Holland) and two years in Amsterdam (we lived together when we studied in Amsterdam), such a distance is difficult. Exept brother and sister we are good friends, and we shared a social life in Amsterdam. My girlfriends became her girlfriends and they are missing her even more than I do. Pieter Here is a photo of Pieter and his sister in South Africa.
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