European films about Native Americans?

[Jaga]

What was a name of the fictiounalnative American hero - an Appache. Books about him were sold in millions of copies and films were created?

By the way, the character of the Native American was played by the French actor???

[justjohn]

Jul 26, 2008 22:13:43 GMT -7 Jaga said:

What was a name of the fictiounalnative American hero - an Appache. Books about him were sold in millions of copies and films were created?

By the way, the character of the Native American was played by the French actor???

Are you speaking of Geronimo?

[uncltim]

There have been many Native American heroes. I am unaware of any European books or films about same.

[pieter]

Karl Friedrich May's (February 25, 1842 – March 30, 1912) Winnetou, a fictional Mescalero Apache and his white friend
Old Shatterhand. As a boy I was addicted to these novels and I think I have read all the Dutch translations I could get.
In the same time I read the boeks of the Dutch childerennovelwriter Johannes Nowee who wrote cowboy
stories about the fictional comboy Arendsoog (Eagle Eye).

The French actor Pierre Brice played Winnetou in the movie Old Shatterhand (1964), directed
by Hugo Fregonese, based on the novels of Karl May. And Old Shatterhand was played in the
movie by the actor Lex Barker. To be frank I loved the books more, because you could use
your own imagination and fantasy.

www.karl-may-stiftung.de/museum/engl/index.html
home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/jp.rinkel/ / www.dbnl.org/tekst/nowe001aren01_01/

[Jaga]

Guys,

thanks for trying. Winnetou story was extremely popular among Europeans but from your responses it looks that nobody knows about him here in America.

So, I guess, there is still quite a disconnect between America and Europe

Here is fragment from Winnetou (in German):

[Jaga]

Where WInnetou movies were made?

here is more about Winnetou, all kids in Poland knew about famous Winnetou
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou

[kaima]

Jul 27, 2008 8:56:34 GMT -7 Jaga said:

Guys,

thanks for trying. Winnetou story was extremely popular among Europeans but from your responses it looks that nobody knows about him here in America.

So, I guess, there is still quite a disconnect between America and Europe

That seems to be the case, Jaga. I know of Winnetou only from my stay in Germany. haven't read the books but have probably seen a movie or two on TV in Germany or at least segments.

Karl May wrote the series without ever having visited America. That makes me think of the painting by artist Emanuel Leutze of Washington crossing the Delaware.
www.metmuseum.org/explore/gw/el_gw.htm

Wiki reports he was German American, but the story I remember hearing is that he painted the picture using the Rhein River as background and had the direction of water flow backwards, in addition to taking the dramatic liberty of having Washington stand up in the small boat in a rough river with ice floes. Now to read what the web says about the picture.

Does Poland have an occasional "wild west" compound where they recreate their concept of the wild west, in towns or wood stockades (forts), saloons or other stereotypical buildings? I have seen a few of these in Germany where people can go to wear their recreated western-cowboy or mountain man clothing, play Indian or any role they choose and chat with other like minded people.

Now if only I knew Winnetou well enough to close with whatever one of his famous sayings may have been....

Kai

[Atlantis5]

Jul 27, 2008 8:59:55 GMT -7 Jaga said:

Where WInnetou movies were made?

here is more about Winnetou, all kids in Poland knew about famous Winnetou
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou

Sorry for lateness for topic interest. Winnetou, yes of course, a wonderful film {s}. What wonderful adventure with the Indian wars, epic battles between the settlers/blue coat solders riding such magnificent horses. The Indian warriors with their combat facial paint and living in tee-pees..and Lex Barker..

One of actors not mentioned, was one of my favourites, {Klaus Kinski}. He was to be in several American films as a nasty. I think it was in one of the Italian westerns with Clint Eastwood.

mondo-esoterica.net/Winnetou%202.html

Those were such interesting and fascinating films of Western life.

What a wonderful period of the American wild West.

Forgot also of mention of other cowboy western people: Roy Rogers/lone Ranger/ {seemed of strange a Ranger dressed as a mask bandit?} These we watched with dubbing for understanding of dialog, they were fascinating.

Oops, forgot of question of making of film. I think it was Yugoslavia or Croatia, not sure.

Charles

[Jaga]

+++Does Poland have an occasional "wild west" compound where they recreate their concept of the wild west+++

sure, Polish wild west are the Eastern boarders of Poland with Ukraine and Belarus. There was much less population there and much more wilderness. You can see it even on the famous Deluge (Potop) movie.