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Post by Jaga on Sept 15, 2008 22:44:44 GMT -7
Just today I watched a very interesting film "The end of suburbia". This movie is available online also:
it is very interesting. It talks about the history of suburbia in America - how it was created, how it was scrawling all around big cities. How it created the communities which consumed too many goods - because people lived in big houses, needed lots of electricity than before, had to have their cars.
In the times when the peak oil is behind us we need to shrink our needs and possibly go back to the cities. The globalization would be replaced by localization. We will have to produce food and other products locally. People will be also more interconnected, now it seems that people in suburbia are very isolated.
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Post by Mary on Sept 16, 2008 20:33:15 GMT -7
Just today I watched a very interesting film "The end of suburbia". This movie is available online also: it is very interesting. It talks about the history of suburbia in America - how it was created, how it was scrawling all around big cities. How it created the communities which consumed too many goods - because people lived in big houses, needed lots of electricity than before, had to have their cars. In the times when the peak oil is behind us we need to shrink our needs and possibly go back to the cities. The globalization would be replaced by localization. We will have to produce food and other products locally. People will be also more interconnected, now it seems that people in suburbia are very isolated.  But we like being isolated Remember.... we bitter Pennsylvanians cling to our religion and guns..........................    |
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Post by freetobe on Sept 16, 2008 20:48:56 GMT -7
Jaga,
An opinion( not mine) of a well respected NY physician is that Idaho is the #1 redneck state in America. I argued that Alaska should have that honor, but there was no convincing this learned, well informed professional. Do you believe you are living among the worst rednecks in the nation?
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Post by Mary on Sept 16, 2008 20:51:23 GMT -7
Jaga, An opinion( not mine) of a well respected NY physician is that Idaho is the #1 redneck state in America. I argued that Alaska should have that honor, but there was no convincing this learned, well informed professional. Do you believe you are living among the worst rednecks in the nation? Aw shucks, FTB, I thought we "clingers" were the worst rednecks..............I hang my head in shame............... |
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Post by Jaga on Sept 17, 2008 10:47:59 GMT -7
Freetobe,
I work with rednecks and I realize that I need to understand them better. They were very excited that Palin was elected because she hunts moss.
Mary,
if you would have a chance please watch this movie. It is really good. I agree with you and Obama that the small towns America sees things differently. They are pro-guns. I understand that.
But, people have to agree that while in makes sense to have guns in Texas farm it does not make sense to have guns in DC.
How many moss are there in DC compared to Alaska?
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Post by Mary on Sept 17, 2008 11:33:33 GMT -7
Freetobe, I work with rednecks and I realize that I need to understand them better. They were very excited that Palin was elected because she hunts moss. Mary, if you would have a chance please watch this movie. It is really good. I agree with you and Obama that the small towns America sees things differently. They are pro-guns. I understand that. But, people have to agree that while in makes sense to have guns in Texas farm it does not make sense to have guns in DC. How many moss are there in DC compared to Alaska? Jaga, I agree there is no good reason for the average citizen to bear arms in DC. I'm all for strict screening and waiting periods to buy a gun. I am against banning guns all together. Criminals know how to get guns no matter what can be done to try to prevent it. It's a difficult issue because if banned, the right to keep and bear arms (second amendment) would only affect the law abiding citizens. Living in a remote area, I want to know that I have the legal right to protect myself. And if a coyote jumps the fence for my little goat, dogs or cat, you can bet I will try to take it down. (we are starting to have a real problem with the growing coyote population) Many families here depend on venison for helping feed the family each year and hunts are often a family event with brothers, fathers, and even a few women. Pennsylvania Game Commission does a good job of monitoring the herds so they don't get out of hand. If there are too many deer then they eat all the crops and cause a lot of damage when hit by cars. The insurance companies would like to see more licenses for hunting issued. Guns aren't the problem. Criminals are. Brutally strict penalties for crimes committed with guns are needed. I mean take them off the street forever, first offense. A second chance too often means another life will be lost. I will watch the movie you mentioned, but not now as I am at work. Mary |
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Post by kaima on Sept 17, 2008 15:56:37 GMT -7
An opinion .... is that Idaho is the #1 redneck state in America. I argued that Alaska should have that honor, ... Good thing too, we have NO rednecks in Alaska. The boring fact is that the angle of the sun is too low to produce rednecks, but the entertaining reality is that the word is not in our vocabulary, as suburb does not exist up here. Except for "Alaska is a suburb of Seattle." In place of rednecks we officially have "Valley Trash", which coincidentally is centered in Palin's hometown of Wasilla. Wasilla is occupied by proud Valley Trash, a term invented by indited Senator Ted Steven's egotistical son Ben Stevens when he was in the State legislature. The people of the Valley (Mat-Su Valley; long version: Matanuska - Susitna Valley) happily adapted it as their own and t-shirt makers had a nice rush of business in the valley. Now while Wasilla is occupied by proud Valley Trash, Tina Fey was right on when she identified it as "Meth Capital of Alaska". It is also Marijuana capital of Alaska, MJ being our prime cash crop in Alaska (by reputation). |
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Post by kaima on Sept 17, 2008 16:03:31 GMT -7
I agree there is no good reason for the average citizen to bear arms in DC. ... Living in a remote area, I want to know that I have the legal right to protect myself. And if a coyote jumps the fence for my little goat, dogs or cat, you can bet I will try to take it down. (we are starting to have a real problem with the growing coyote population) Mary I would feel much surer of walking many miles through the wilderness and not having troubles than I would walking the same distance through Washington DC. I suspect we need more guns in Washington & the citizens will reduce the number of criminals. If we as a nation took the second amendment seriously we would take our firearms in the cities, lift up the window a crack and pop off the local drug dealer on the corner. If it was the neighborhood kid or your own kid, it is one druggie less in the world and you would have fulfilled your civic duty. That would be effective, much more so than the hollow show the politicians are staging with the "War on Drugs". Kai |
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Post by Mary on Sept 17, 2008 16:17:02 GMT -7
I agree there is no good reason for the average citizen to bear arms in DC. ... Living in a remote area, I want to know that I have the legal right to protect myself. And if a coyote jumps the fence for my little goat, dogs or cat, you can bet I will try to take it down. (we are starting to have a real problem with the growing coyote population) Mary I would feel much surer of walking many miles through the wilderness and not having troubles than I would walking the same distance through Washington DC. I suspect we need more guns in Washington & the citizens will reduce the number of criminals. If we as a nation took the second amendment seriously we would take our firearms in the cities, lift up the window a crack and pop off the local drug dealer on the corner. If it was the neighborhood kid or your own kid, it is one druggie less in the world and you would have fulfilled your civic duty. That would be effective, much more so than the hollow show the politicians are staging with the "War on Drugs". Kai You bring up some very valid points and many of us rednecks, or valley trash agree. We'd love to rid the earth of the filth. If it were only that simple. Unfortunatly the reality is we would be in the jails.  |
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Post by kaima on Sept 17, 2008 20:17:23 GMT -7
Well, we just spent 28 years deregulating business. Now we should start deregulating citizens and return to a land of Liberty.
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Post by Mary on Sept 17, 2008 20:32:01 GMT -7
Well, we just spent 28 years deregulating business. Now we should start deregulating citizens and return to a land of Liberty. Kai Kai, Yes, a lot of our laws have actually worked against the law abiding citizens. True Story... In North Warren, PA. (don't remember the date, but probably in the late '80's.....) An owner of a local laundromat had been robbed numerous times. The police couldn't seem to catch the criminal. The owner lay in wait night after night to try to catch him. When the criminal was caught by the owner, tools and all, breaking into the door, the owner said to stop or he would shoot. The criminal confronted the owner threatining physical harm. (he claimed to have a gun too) The owner stopped him right there in his tracks .....BUT, the State Police had to arrest the owner...... [/u](get this!) because the robber was laying outside the building! They told the owner that his mistake was that he had not shot him "inside" the business!!!!!!!!!!! And that he should have dragged him inside before calling them......Is that Bullshit or what?  ? Where has our justice gone?....................................down the toilet? |
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