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Post by Jaga on Jan 2, 2009 21:14:50 GMT -7
I do not believe this theory but it is a huge hit in Russia. crooksandliars.com/node/24946Happy New Year! It's the End of the World As We Know It! |
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Post by archivist on Jan 3, 2009 12:56:02 GMT -7
To all my American friends:
When your Federation of States disintegrates and Texas goes to war with New Hampshire over the price of bagels or two other far apart states go to war over something equally earth shattering, you will always be welcome to be re-colonised by mother England. This time we'll give you representation for your taxation! And, if you like, we'll nuke the other state for you!
Peter Pan may not have wanted to grow up, but I think Putin, his puppet Medvedev and all the other Russian politicians NEED to do just that. Totalitarian states break up because ultimately the people can only be pushed so far. Democratic Unions hold together because they want to and because they have a lot in common, and because they are free to speak their minds.
I believe it would be a disaster if the United States broke up - for millions of reasons, but I don't think I'll lose any sleep over this stupid misconception. Across central and eastern Europe, hundreds of millions of people are HAPPY that the Soviet Union crumbled. In America, a quarter of a billion people would be emotionally, politically and economically devastated if the USA went the same way. Can you honestly even think of this as a possibility? No, of course you can't, nor can any intelligent person anywhere else in the world - unless they are on mind altering drugs!
Such a pity, it would be nice to have the colonies back!
Neville
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Post by karl on Jan 3, 2009 14:32:17 GMT -7
Igor N. Panarin www.russiahouse.org/wrf/Igor_Panarin.htmA very intelligent and respected man. All that of information of the url above is very commendable and short. For although of public life as a professor, the man is also former FAPSI, now of service of Special Communications and Information of {FSB}section. What he has brought forward into the light of day, is another analyst projection, it is common, for most of our known governments do this for analysis for purpose of what if? And what do we do about it? It is a project. But, perhaps there is another view upon the mountain of sunshine. The public people of The Russian Federation. Of late, a considerable amount of tension has built upon the currant of events. Example: Missile shield the Americans intend to build Encirclement of their country by NATO as proper-visioned by the USA. The Georgia invasion and subsequent saber rattling by the USA The people are scared to say the least, for would not the most of us here if placed into their shoes? The quick and easy fix for fear, is the placement of information of the coming demise of the immediate foe, and that foe is America. So, for not to public make, of such publicized news??? It is cheap, and it is effective, and if it works not, then Mr. Panarin must create another method of information provision to save his butt and his job. For he will be then replaced. This is a prime example of these fellows that have never worked in the field. They rely upon electronic input and the reports of others for their lively hood. I think the American term for these people is: {geeks}. Karl |
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Post by archivist on Jan 3, 2009 16:18:23 GMT -7
And I think the universal term for the rubbish he is spouting is PROPAGANDA! The Russian people are not fools, and now they have access to free media and particularly the Internet, they are not going to fall for that rubbish. It was a different story when they were isolated and held in ignorance - but not now. So they can replace the good professor as many times as they like, it just won't work any more.
Neville
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Post by Pawian on Jan 3, 2009 16:42:36 GMT -7
And I think the universal term for the rubbish he is spouting is PROPAGANDA! The Russian people are not fools, and now they have access to free media and particularly the Internet, they are not going to fall for that rubbish. It was a different story when they were isolated and held in ignorance - but not now. So they can replace the good professor as many times as they like, it just won't work any more. Neville I agree the Internet has no constraints in Russia, after all it is not China. However, other media are controlled by Russian authorities. To what extent? E.g, the recent disturbances by individual car importers at Russian borders weren`t covered by Russian state TV. And there are no independent channels. |
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Post by archivist on Jan 3, 2009 16:59:57 GMT -7
I can't argue with that Pawian, but the Russians can pick up news channels from outside Russia. Something along the lines of the BBC World Service during WW2 and the Cold War. The Russian people can find the truth if they really try. And they are a lot more sophisticated now than they were a few years ago.
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Post by Pawian on Jan 3, 2009 17:02:53 GMT -7
I can't argue with that Pawian, but the Russians can pick up news channels from outside Russia. Something along the lines of the BBC World Service during WW2 and the Cold War. The Russian people can find the truth if they really try. And they are a lot more sophisticated now than they were a few years ago. Neville Yes, they are sophisticated, they always were... But if you mean BBC in English, then forget it. Most Russians, just like most Poles, don`t use English fluently enough to take advantage of such channels. |
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Post by archivist on Jan 3, 2009 17:25:03 GMT -7
No, but such information channels are available in Russian. I often read/watch Russian channels in English. Politically, they are garbage (in my opinion) but there are some very good cultural and historic items which I enjoy.
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Post by Pawian on Jan 3, 2009 17:42:04 GMT -7
I often read/watch Russian channels in English. Politically, they are garbage (in my opinion) That`s what I meant. Good to know. |
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Post by archivist on Jan 3, 2009 18:05:01 GMT -7
There is good everywhere, if you are prepared to look for it. Take out the politics and you can find some amazing things. I recently listened to an item on the Crimean War (remember they were fighting us!) and I got a whole new perspective - no politics involved - just by hearing it from the Russian point of view. You see, that's what I mean by objectivity. You get closer to the truth if you put your own natural bias to one side and look at a story from BOTH opposing points of view. That's why I try to treat the Germans fairly when I write about WW2.
Neville
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Post by redneck on Jan 3, 2009 22:06:39 GMT -7
I read this story a week or two ago on Pravda.
Its amusing. Its amusing not because its impossible, anything is possible. Its amusing because of the way they break up the food states. wishfull thinking. Kentucky and Tenessee going with the Atlantic states??? HAHAHAHA!
I could imagine the federal government selling off Hawaii or Alaska. Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are another possibility. California and Arizona have already been effectively returned to Mexico.
Republic of Texas sounds like my kind of place!
Tim
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Post by justjohn on Jan 4, 2009 4:55:23 GMT -7
To all my American friends: When your Federation of States disintegrates and Texas goes to war with New Hampshire over the price of bagels or two other far apart states go to war over something equally earth shattering, you will always be welcome to be re-colonised by mother England. This time we'll give you representation for your taxation! And, if you like, we'll nuke the other state for you! Neville Hmmmmmmmm - - - - War with Texas over bagels - ehhhhh? Maybe maple syrup but not bagels. Besides, the Texans would just freeze up here and concede us to Canada. We then could call it "The Maple Leaf state".     |
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