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Post by Jaga on Jul 1, 2009 20:12:58 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Jul 6, 2009 20:46:27 GMT -7
anybody knows what Michael Jackson wanted to build in Poland?
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Post by Eric on Jul 11, 2009 0:10:24 GMT -7
A brothel for children?
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Post by Jaga on Jul 12, 2009 20:47:43 GMT -7
Hi Eric,
Michael Jackson was very impressed how he was welcomed in Poland and he wanted to build a family entertaiment park near Warsaw. He even met with Warsaw authorities in 1996.
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Post by Eric on Jul 14, 2009 12:13:53 GMT -7
Of course, Poles considered Michael Jackson's songs to be a rare "taste of America".
Soviet audiences preferred French and Italian singers, such as Dalida, Mireille Mathieu, and Joe Dassin, and European groups like Boney-M and ABBA. American singers were largely unknown in the USSR, though Gloria Gaynor and, for some reason, Kiss were extremely popular.
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Post by tuftabis on Jul 15, 2009 6:18:57 GMT -7
Of course, Poles considered Michael Jackson's songs to be a rare "taste of America". Soviet audiences preferred French and Italian singers, such as Dalida, Mireille Mathieu, and Joe Dassin, and European groups like Boney-M and ABBA. American singers were largely unknown in the USSR, though Gloria Gaynor and, for some reason, Kiss were extremely popular. Eric, all mentioned were popular in Poland as well. But that was long before Michael Jackson. You might not remember these times very well, but Michael Jackson was very popular - and treated in Russia as a true king, with all traditional Russian hospitality Today, undoubtedly, the biggest world news is the unexpected death of Michael Jackson, the only true King of Pop. It was night time in Moscow when the news reached Russia, and the sad event dominated the news reports around the country all day long since early morning. All Russian news channels, including the state-owned Rossiya and the First Channel, started their news reports with the details of Michael Jackson’s passing, his career, his visits to Russia, and tribute of his fans around the world and in Russian cities. Many finished the news with a “no comment” music video tribute to the singer. Gazeta.ru wrote that “only a lazy paralyzed person didn’t throw a rock at the idol in the last few years,” however they agreed that his death brought out the true feeling about the star in Russia and around the globe: unreserved love and admiration.Among many Russian leaders, the president of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov said “I deeply grieve with the musician's relatives, friends, and fans because of the untimely passing of the outstanding man, unmatchable singer Michael Jackson, whose death ends the entire epoch of the world music culture.”
Michael Jackson was a household name in the countries of the former Soviet Union. During his visits to Moscow in 1993 and 1996, he was greeted as a head of state. Radio Free Europe writes that “his live concert in Moscow in 1993 sparked near-hysteria among scores of Russians hungry for a taste of Western culture.” One of my brightest personal memories from the Nineties is attending Jackson’s History Tour concert at the Dynamo stadium in Moscow in 1996. Today, hundreds of fans laid flowers and toys near the American Embassy in Moscow and in downtown St Petersburg to honor the idol. We all deeply grieve the untimely passing of the musician who influenced our lives and cultures.
www.russiablog.org/2009/06/michael_jackson_russia.php |
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Post by Jaga on Jul 15, 2009 11:08:25 GMT -7
Of course, Poles considered Michael Jackson's songs to be a rare "taste of America". Soviet audiences preferred French and Italian singers, such as Dalida, Mireille Mathieu, and Joe Dassin, and European groups like Boney-M and ABBA. American singers were largely unknown in the USSR, though Gloria Gaynor and, for some reason, Kiss were extremely popular. Eric, Jackson was popular not because he was from America. +++Soviet audiences preferred French and Italian singers, such as Dalida, Mireille Mathieu, and Joe Dassin,+++ these people were very popular in Poland also. But this was a different epoch!!!! Dalida died before even Michael Jackson was known! We had a special program with French music with text translation on Sunday morning in radio. Please, do not get jelous about America just because it has some unusual talents. |
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Post by Eric on Jul 15, 2009 20:06:20 GMT -7
You might not remember these times very well, but Michael Jackson was very popular - and treated in Russia as a true king, with all traditional Russian hospitality No, I can't agree. Yes, he was quite popular in his time, but was he treated like a true king? Was he greeted with traditional Russian hospitality and love? No. He was treated like a major international pop star. Honestly, I've seen Paul McCartney receive a more enthusiastic welcome in Russia than Michael Jackson. Jackson is/was respected in Russia for being the biggest-selling artist, but Russian audiences have a deeper connection to other singers. Today, undoubtedly, the biggest world news is the unexpected death of Michael Jackson, the only true King of Pop. It was night time in Moscow when the news reached Russia, and the sad event dominated the news reports around the country all day long since early morning. All Russian news channels, including the state-owned Rossiya and the First Channel, started their news reports with the details of Michael Jackson’s passing, his career, his visits to Russia, and tribute of his fans around the world and in Russian cities. Many finished the news with a “no comment” music video tribute to the singer. I saw the news reports mentioned, on Channel 1 and "Russia", but they're FAR from the "idolizing" stories mentioned in this article. Yes, it was the top story of the day. Yes, they mentioned his career, visits to Russia, etc. But they did not idolize him. They did not end their stories with music video tributes. (MTV did, but you'd expect them to.) Reflections on the "tributes" were basically short videoclips from various cities showing makeshrift shines, brief interviews, etc. I notice that the article you presented comes from a blog, not an actual news service. So, it is important to take its information with a grain of salt, as the saying goes. Obviously, the author was a very serious fan of Michael Jackson, and is trying to overemphasize his importance in Russia. I can just as easily write a blog and make it seem like Jackson was but a mere speck in the whole history of Russians listening to Western pop music.  |
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Post by Eric on Jul 15, 2009 20:09:28 GMT -7
Please, do not get jelous about America just because it has some unusual talents. The "best" America had to offer was Michael Jackson. The "best" the USSR had to offer was Alla Pugachova. Do you think I'm getting jealous? I've made my decision as to my preferences a long time ago, and I regret nothing! I've never had any interest in Michael Jackson's music. Or Britney Spears' music. Or Madonna's music. Or any of the American singers who appear to be so popular not because of any serious musical talent (which, I will admit, Jackson and Madonna have), but because they're (firstly) American and (secondly) willing to take their clothes off and dance around the stage in a provocative manner. |
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Post by cube on Jul 25, 2009 0:07:45 GMT -7
Zdravstvuyte! so it is all equilibrated now the blogger has overemphasized Michael Jackson's importance and Eric has downemphasized it |
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Post by Eric on Jul 25, 2009 3:31:36 GMT -7
Long live equilibrium! |
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