Bob S
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Post by Bob S on Sept 6, 2006 19:51:28 GMT -7
Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house). ”According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other benefits to me and to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part). “If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there. ”It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, except for well, you know. ”And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.”
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Post by jimpres on Sept 7, 2006 8:13:43 GMT -7
hooyah ! right on. However, breaking into my house could prove fatal for the intruder.
Jim
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Post by pieter on Sept 7, 2006 9:12:20 GMT -7
Seems that we have the same "problem" in Europe, exept that the people are differant here, from Africa and the Middle-east. Our borders have become so strong that they speak about Fortress Europe.
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Post by bescheid on Sept 7, 2006 9:14:10 GMT -7
Gollies Bob What a conflict of emotions this evokes But, what you say is factual in a laughable but realistic manner. With my own personal issues, there is very little energy to expend upon the concerns of the Hispanics. Although, I do have some observations within the area I am living in: Every morning, numbers of very rough appearing Hispanic males congregate in the parking area of Home Depot. They are waiting to be picked as day labours as work crews for various enterprises. They can be hired for the day, and the employer has not to report them as workers comp. or add them as employees.{ Saves added insurance cost and taxs to the state.} They appear to enjoy the company of one another as they speak only Spanish between them selves. Whilst one comes within two meters of them, they avoid eye to eye contact. For the most part, they are non-threatening, just very dirty appearing. What I have not noticed is this: With the very large labour pool available in the unemployment offices, coupled with the Welfare labour available pool. I have not seen any whites waiting as work crews.. I find this rather strange. It would so seem as logical, the local and state governments would set up labour ready portable facilities on site, if only with use of buses. If these construction material out lets do not object to Hispanics congregating within the confines of their parking property, it would stand to reason there would be no objection to government labour assistance. Or am I in the wrong book looking at the wrong page? Or is this actually in the correct programme? Charles
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piwo
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Post by piwo on Sept 7, 2006 15:53:45 GMT -7
I continue to be troubled by the mis-use of the word immigrant.
Until the whole illegal hispanic alien debate, an Immigrant was a person granted legal resident who was born outside the country, and described status: a legal alien. Those not legal, are illegal aliens. Immigrant label tries to influence the debate by giving a criminal a "legitimate" status, and of course, is just subterfuge.
I don't believe there is such thing as as "illegal immigration": there are immigrants, and those criminals who invade our country illegally. Period. That the definition has been broadened to describe everyone born outside the USA borders only serves the lawbreakers and those who wish to cloud the issue with misdirection. It now seems as though our government is prey to that misdirection by even calling them immigrants.
"Illegal immigrant" is to immigration, what rape is to sex. Is it the same?
That's my take.
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nancy
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Post by nancy on Sept 10, 2006 15:33:00 GMT -7
"Illegal immigrant" is to immigration, what rape is to sex. Is it the same? That is a comparison I will have to remember - really makes the point!
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Post by leslie on Sept 10, 2006 15:40:07 GMT -7
Piwo Trust Nancy to fix on that point!!!! But it is a very good simile that can be used - there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. We're getting very worried in the UK about immigrants when Bulgaria and Romania join the EU - an even bigger flood than we have experienced is expected to happen. So it looks as if there is going to be legislation - as there is already in parts of the EU - to limit immigration to required trades and professions. We're always slow about these things here!! L
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