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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 13, 2010 13:30:18 GMT -7
Grieving twin may decide to step into Polish President’s shoes
From Times Online April 13, 2010
President Kaczynski rang his brother Jaroslaw from the cabin of his official Tupolev 154 jet. “It’s all going according to plan,” he said. “We’ll be landing in a few minutes.” A little over 30 minutes later, at 8.56am, the aircraft crashed in Smolensk. None of the 96 passengers and crew survived.
Jaroslaw, the older of the twins by 45 seconds, has been wrenched out of one of Europe’s strangest political partnerships. Now he has to decide whether to continue their work by standing for the now-vacant presidency.
The question of how to continue is not unique to Mr Kaczynski, 60. The crash has removed a large segment of the governing class and Poland is having to wrestle with the problem of how to keep a modern state functioning without leaders.
But the dilemma for Mr Kaczynski is the most poignant. He was told of the crash soon after that last call with his brother. The Foreign Minister, Radek Sikorski, phoned saying: “I have terrible news for you.”
Within hours Mr Kaczynski was on his way to Russia with the Prime Minister, Donald Tusk, to identify the body. Vladimir Putin, the Russian Prime Minister, asked if he could go along as well; Mr Kaczynski declined. Identifying the body of a brother — one who looks, apart from a mole, exactly like you — would have been an intensely personal experience.
The twins had what has been called a near-telepathic understanding. They would finish each other’s sentences. When Lech was President and Jaroslaw was Prime Minister the head of state would sometimes reach for the telephone before it rang, sensing that his twin was trying to make contact.
The depth of Mr Kaczynski’s grief was all too evident when the body of the President arrived in Warsaw. He kneeled, kissed the casket and seemed to be whispering to his dead brother, saying a prayer perhaps or making a vow.
From today President Kaczynski will lie in state and the body of his wife should have arrived. “She was identified from her nail varnish and her gold wedding ring,” said Ewa Kopacz, the Polish Health Minister.
President Kaczynski will be buried on Saturday. All 96 coffins will be laid out in Pilsudski Square in Warsaw and what is left of the presidential protocol team is inviting at least two dozen heads of state, including the Russian President, Dmitri Medvedev, to attend.
This will not be a simple funeral but a two-day event in which Poles take stock of the future.
Among them will be Mr Kaczynski, who could yet transcend this tragedy. The brothers, Roman Catholics and the children of academics who fought in the 1944 Warsaw Uprising, had been on a political mission throughout their adult lives. They seem to have had fun as children, playing in the rubble of the Polish capital and starring in the children’s film The Two Who Stole the Moon.
As law students one of the twins reputedly replaced the other in an exam. They were active during the Solidarity strikes of 1980, advising the revolutionary Lech Walesa and, more prominently, helping him to the presidency after the collapse of communism in 1989.
President Kaczynski, who was married and had a daughter, had a softer edge than his bachelor brother. But there was always a sense that they were working towards the same goals: anti-communist, socially conservative men who wanted to instil a new patriotism in young Poles but who defined that patriotism narrowly.
They were not very curious about the outside world — Lech boasted before becoming President that his only contact with modern Germany had been a visit to the toilet in the transit lounge of Frankfurt airport — and they were suspicious of Russia.
If Mr Kaczynski overcomes his trauma his brief will be clear: to reform the Law and Justice party that the twins founded and which is now in opposition. It may be that the best way to do that is as a presidential candidate, treading in the footsteps of his brother.
If a President J. Kaczynski follows the late President L. Kaczynski the upbeat talk of a new dawn in Polish-Russian relations will have to be reconsidered. The polls did not look good for the re-election of the President in the weeks before his death but his brother could benefit from a sympathy vote. President Kaczynski, when alive, was seen as a polariser. In death many Poles, even young ones, are wondering whether he was not indeed on the right path: Polish values have to be more stridently defended in a changing world.
The tens of thousands of mourners certainly seemed to be gripped by a sense of Polishness, of unity in tragedy. Queues, two hours deep, are still forming outside the presidential palace and also outside army headquarters, the Olympic committee, the central bank and the two houses of parliament to sign condolence books and add to the candles.
“Don’t talk to us about politics!” yelled one elderly woman to a television crew. “We are here to be together as Poles not to fight over political bones like stray dogs.”
However, not long after the President has been buried with his wife, politics will return.
Mourners unite with website tributes
There has been an outpouring of grief in cyberspace since the death of the President. Video montages to pay tribute to the victims of the crash have appeared on YouTube. One video, posted only yesterday, has already had 45,000 views. In another a Polish woman posted a poem calling on her compatriots to unite to overcome the tragedy. The home pages of the largest Polish news sites are in black and white and many Twitter users have changed their image to a black ribbon. Several memorial groups have been created on Facebook.
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Post by Jaga on Apr 13, 2010 20:19:42 GMT -7
There is a strange development. Jaroslaw Kaczynski feels wings in his arms. He asked for his brother and his wife to be buried in Wawel castle. Many people think that this is too much. They should be not buried as kings, but as respectable politicians - in Warsaw.
Pres. Obama commemorated pres. Kaczynski's death with the minute of silence. He will come to attend his funeral.
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 14, 2010 3:27:44 GMT -7
Geez, it kind of makes you wonder if Medieval monarchy is making a comeback in Poland.
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 14, 2010 18:49:24 GMT -7
Vendors selling Polish flags in Warsaw on Wednesday. Reaping Profits From Poland’s TragedyBy DAN BILEFSKY April 14, 2010 WARSAW — By 11:54 a.m. Saturday, less than three hours after President Lech Kaczynski’s plane had crashed in Russia, killing all 96 people on board, one opportunistic Pole had already manufactured 50 T-shirts emblazoned with the Polish flag and “RIP” and was peddling them on the Internet for $8.50 each, tax and delivery fees not included. Within hours of the crash, which also killed the president’s wife, Maria, the governor of Poland’s Central Bank and dozens of political and military leaders, sellers were hawking everything from commemorative plastic clocks adorned with images of the first couple smiling in front of a map of Poland to Internet domain names containing the late president’s name. One — Lech-Kaczynski.eu — was being offered on Allegro, the Polish equivalent of eBay, for one million zlotys, or $350,000, before critics complained and it was taken down. Candle sellers reaped handsome profits as mourners bought thousands of brightly colored candles — about $2 each — creating an instant memorial throughout the capital. Poland’s calamity has unified the country and spurred a genuine outpouring of grief and solidarity seldom seen since the death of Pope John Paul II, five years ago. For the past two days, a line of grieving mourners over half a mile long has assembled near the Presidential Palace. Yet some Poles said the crass commercialism that also greeted the tragedy showed the extent to which Poland, 20 years after the revolution that overthrew Communism, had become a healthy capitalist economy, even as the free market was challenging the Roman Catholic Church as the new religion. Others who knew Mr. Kaczynski, an advocate of social justice who railed against the excesses of the market economy, said he would have recoiled at the sight of T-shirts bearing his image. Ryszard Bugaj, Mr. Kaczynski’s senior economic adviser before the president’s death, said he was not surprised that some were trying to profit from the misery of others. “It’s a natural thing that such traumatic events are followed by extreme behaviors, both very good ones and, like in this case, the worst ones,” he said in an interview. “I find it sad that people are exploiting other people’s grief. This kind of behavior is typical of capitalist morality, when people don’t care about what’s appropriate anymore and are blinded by the sheer prospect of financial gain.” Some did little to conceal their efforts to fuse national grief with the profit motive. On Saturday, the day of accident, the Web site Zlozkondolencje.pl asked mourners to send their condolences via text messages for a fee of $10.60. In return, the site promised, the messages would be collected in a bound book to be placed in the Presidential Palace here. An online site selling clocks with images of the first couple exhorted consumers: “We have to say goodbye to our presidential couple, Lech and Maria Kaczynski; we looked up to them, they will never be forgotten. Now please do feel welcome to buy a presidential clock with images of our president and his wife.” Economists predicted that the commercial response to the tragedy would have little economic effect, since a majority of Poles typically turned to the church and the kitchen — not to shopping — to nurse their broken hearts. “We don’t deal with our traumas by spending money,” Mr. Bugaj said. But Grazyna Zoltowska, a 42-year-old single mother selling Polish flags outside the Presidential Palace, said the outpouring of patriotism would help her pay her bills for months to come. On Saturday, the day of the accident, she said, she made a profit of more than $700. Her flags, made in China, sell for 20 zlotys, or about $6.80 each. “It’s not the ideal way I’d like to make a living, but I need to support my family,” she said. This weekend, dozens of dignitaries, including President Obama, Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany and President Nicolas Sarkozy of France, will arrive in Poland for the funeral of the president and his wife, who will be buried Sunday at the Wawel Cathedral in Krakow, the resting place of Polish kings. Some hotels in Krakow are charging kingly rates of more than $3,000 a night. For all the commercial frenzy, however, Mr. Bugaj said Mr. Kaczynski, though anchored by a strong sense of morality, would not have judged the capitalist excess too harshly. “He was quite understanding about human weaknesses,” Mr. Bugaj said. “I don’t think he would have minded too much.”
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Post by RabiaMuweis on Apr 15, 2010 2:57:11 GMT -7
Russian sources claim that two bodies identified as plane crash victims were not on the passenger list. So far 64 of 96 victims have been identified. Russian internet media, including gazeta.ru, news.ru and correspondent.ru, however, suggest that there might have been more people on board of the Tu-154 than originally thought but do not specify whether they were passengers or crew members. There is also a possibility that the remains belong to people who were on the ground at the moment of the catastrophe, or that the DNA tests were faulty. The news, which comes from the Moscow unit that is providing support to the families of the victims, has not yet been confirmed by anyone in Poland. (mg) www.thenews.pl/international/artykul129501_two-bodies-found-not-on-passengers-list-.html
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Post by RabiaMuweis on Apr 15, 2010 3:47:08 GMT -7
Is it possible that a terrorist act
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 17, 2010 6:22:12 GMT -7
Service for Polish crash victims
Saturday, 17 April 2010 12:21 UK
Tens of thousands of people are taking part in a memorial service in the Polish capital for the 96 victims of last weekend's plane crash.
Polish President Lech Kaczynski and key public figures, including the heads of the armed forces were among the dead.
Sirens sounded across the country to signal the start of the service.
As well as speeches from politicians, including Prime Minister Donald Tusk, Polish bishops are celebrating a solemn Mass service.
Sunday funeral
Beside a white cross on the altar, large black and white photographs show the faces of each of the victims.
The service is taking place in Warsaw's Pilsudski Square - the city's largest open-air square.
SENIOR FIGURES KILLED # National leaders: President Lech Kaczynski and wife Maria Former President-in-exile Ryszard Kaczorowski # Top civil servant: Slawomir Skrzypek National Bank of Poland chairman # Other politicians: Wladyslaw Stasiak chief of the president's chancellery Aleksander Szczyglo chief of the National Security Office Jerzy Szmajdzinski deputy speaker of the lower house Andrzej Kremer Foreign Ministry's undersecretary of state Stanislaw Komorowski deputy minister of national defence Przemyslaw Gosiewski Law and Justice party deputy chair # Military figures: Franciszek Gagor chief of the general staff Andrzej Blasik head of the air force Andrzej Karweta head of the navy Tadeusz Buk land forces commander Aleksander Szczyglo head of the National Security Office # Cultural figures: Andrzej Przewoznik head of Poland's Council for the Protection of Struggle and Martyrdom Sites Tomasz Merta chief historical conservator
It is the traditional location for such public events and is where Pope John Paul II celebrated a Mass during his first pilgrimage to his homeland in 1979.
The crowds are so large that many are watching the service on large television screens that have been erected in the square and in an adjacent park.
At 0856 (0656 GMT) the nation paused for one minute to mark the moment when the plane went down last Saturday in western Russia.
In Warsaw, cars stopped and pedestrians stood still, as they remembered those that lost their lives in what has been described as Poland's worst peacetime disaster.
A Mass on a specially designed stage in the shape of a staircase will be celebrated by Polish bishops and the Vatican envoy, Cardinal Angelo Sodano.
After the Mass, the coffins of Mr Kaczynski and his wife Maria Kaczynska, who have been lying in state in the presidential palace since Tuesday, will be taken to nearby St John's Cathedral, before being taken to Krakow after an overnight vigil.
Dignitaries, including US President Barack Obama, are set to attend their burial there on Sunday.
But it is feared the volcanic ash cloud from Iceland that has disrupted air travel across northern Europe could prevent their arrival.
Some 80 foreign delegations had been scheduled to land at Krakow airport on Sunday. Mr Kaczynski's family has insisted the funeral should go ahead as planned.
The government said so far there had been no cancellations by foreign leaders.
The presidential jet crashed while carrying a delegation to a ceremony for the 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre, in which 22,000 Polish officers were slaughtered by Soviet forces in World War II.
Victims of the crash included the country's military chief, the heads of all three armed forces, the governor of the central bank and the head of the country's Olympic committee.
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 17, 2010 17:44:31 GMT -7
In mourning: Around 100,000 thousand people attended a national memorial service in Pilsudski Square in Warsaw, Poland, for the late Polish President Lech Kaczynski Poland holds huge memorial as Obama cancelsBy Agence France-Presse Saturday, April 17th, 2010 WARSAW (AFP) - – More than 100,000 people gathered Saturday to honour Poland's president and 95 other victims of an air crash, as world leaders cancelled plans to attend his funeral because of a volcanic ash cloud. US President Barack Obama, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other foreign dignitaries said they could not come to Sunday's burial service because of the plume from an Icelandic eruption that is causing travel chaos across Europe. The news came as mourners flocked into Warsaw's main Pilsudski Square for a huge memorial service for Polish president Lech Kaczynski and scores of top officials killed when their plane crashed in Russia one week ago. A huge altar in the square with a giant white cross displayed black and white photographs of all 96 who perished, as an actor solemnly read the name of each victim, starting with Kaczynski and his wife Maria. "Things like this never happen, they are impossible. It is the greatest tragedy in the history of Poland since World War II," Prime Minister Donald Tusk told mourners after a lone bugler sounded a funeral air. Mourners waved red and white Polish flags decked with black ribbons. They applauded Kaczynski's identical twin brother, former premier Jaroslaw, and the couple's daughter Marta as they arrived. Sirens wailed at 8:56 am (0656 GMT) -- the exact time when the presidential jet crashed en route to a ceremony marking the 70th anniversary of the Soviet massacre of thousands of Polish officers -- and again when the service started. The dead also included the country's military chief, the heads of all three armed forces, the governor of the central bank and the boss of its Olympic committee, as well as iconic opponents of Poland's communist-era regime. The square is the traditional site for national services such as the mass of late pope John Paul II when he visited his deeply Catholic homeland in 1979 and also when Pope Benedict XVI came to Poland in 2006. The memorial was followed by a funeral mass for the presidential couple at nearby St. John's Cathedral in Warsaw's old town. Onlookers clapped as their coffins, which have been lying in state in the presidential palace since Tuesday, moved slowly past on gun carriages, and a military band played the funeral march by Franco-Polish composer Frederic Chopin. "We needed to be here in this tragic time," said Jan Szylborski, who came from a small town on buses organised by Solidarity, the trade union that helped bring down communism in Poland in 1989 and in which Kaczynski was an activist. Elected in 2005, the conservative nationalist Kaczynski was a divisive figure at home and abroad, but the crash has brought unity to Poland's fractious political scene, as well as rapprochement with historic foe Russia. Acting president Bronislaw Komorowski said at the public memorial that Poland was "grateful to the citizens of Russia who have spontaneously conveyed their compassion to Poland and the Polish people." A military aircraft will take the bodies of the Kaczynskis to the southern city of Krakow early Sunday for the funeral and burial in the cathedral of the hilltop Wawel castle, where Poland's past kings and national heroes are buried. But the volcanic ash cloud hit the funeral preparations, as Obama, Merkel Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and Spanish premier Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero all said they could not come. Britain's Prince Charles and Foreign Minister David Miliband also cancelled. It was not immediately clear Saturday evening whether Russia's president Dmitry Medvedev would also be forced to skip the ceremony due to the ash cloud, which has forced a no-fly zone over much of the continent. Other European leaders Saturday began a long drive to Krakow, including those from Poland's fellow eastern members of the European Union who recognised Kaczynski as a defender of the region's interests against Western giants. "Kaczynski was a fervent proponent of equality. He stood up for everybody, not just himself," said Estonian Prime Minister Andrus Ansip, who was to drive for 18 hours. Russian and Polish investigators are continuing to probe the cause of the crash, with Russian officials saying they suspect pilot error as the Tupolev Tu-154 plane tried to land in fog near Smolensk in western Russia.
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Post by Nictoshek on May 19, 2010 10:59:13 GMT -7
The flight recorders of aircraft that crashed on April 10, killing Poland’s president and 95 others, were on display at the Russian Interstate Aviation Committee in Moscow on Wednesday. Non-Crew in Cockpit of Doomed Polish FlightBy MICHAEL SCHWIRTZ May 19, 2010 MOSCOW — Aviation authorities offered new details of the plane crash that killed Poland’s president and dozens of other top officials last month, including the revelation that two or more passengers were in the cockpit shortly before aircraft attempted to land in dense fog. In a news conference held by officials of Russia and Poland on Wednesday, Edmond Klich, an envoy from the Polish government, said that flight data recorders showed that the unidentified passengers were speaking in the cockpit 16 to 20 minutes before the April 10 plane crash. The pilots had received at least one warning of poor landing conditions by that point. The news fueled widespread speculation that the pilots were pressed to land so that President Lech Kaczynski and other dignitaries would not be late for their landmark appearance at a ceremony marking the 70th anniversary of the Katyn massacre, in which more than 20,000 Polish officers and others were massacred by the Soviets during World War II. The aviation officials ruled out the possibility that technical failure, sabotage or terrorism, but offered no definitive conclusion as to what could have caused the retrofitted Tupolev TU-154 to slam into the trees just shy of a western Russian airport. They said investigators were exploring whether cellphone use on board the plane or crew inexperience were factors, and that the presence of the passengers in the cockpit was also being examined. “It has been established that in the cockpit, there were individuals that were not members of the crew,” said Tatyana Anodina, the head of the Interstate Aviation Committee. “As for the influence on the decision making of the crew, this should be investigated,” she said. “This is important for the investigation and for establishing the cause” of the crash. Ms. Anodina said that one of the passengers recorded in the cockpit had been identified, but that aviation rules prohibited her from releasing that information or any details about what was said in the cockpit. On Wednesday, the Polish news agency PAP cited anonymous officials in the Polish government, who identified one of the passengers recorded in the cockpit as the commander of Poland’s air force, Andrzej Blasik. The Russian invitation to the Polish president to mark the anniversary at the site of the massacre was a first, meant as a symbol that Russia and Poland had overcome years of bitterness and had begun to improve relations. Mr. Kaczynski’s delegation, which included his wife and top civilian and military officials, was already an hour and a half behind schedule when the plane took off from Poland for a military airfield in Smolensk in western Russia, said Aleksei Morozov, another official with the Interstate Aviation Committee. As the plane approached the airport, air traffic controllers and other pilots in the vicinity repeatedly warned that weather conditions were unfavorable for landing. The first warning came 27 minutes before the crash from dispatchers in Belarus followed by two more from ground crews at the Smolensk airport. About 11 minutes before the crash, the crew was informed that a Russian plane had failed at two landing attempts and had diverted to an alternative airport. About four minutes before the crash, Mr. Morozov said, the crew was told that that visibility had dropped to around 650 feet due to heavy fog. The four-person crew, which Mr. Morozov said had been assembled a few days earlier and had received minimal emergency training, ignored the warnings and requested clearance for a landing attempt. About 18 seconds before the crash, an alarm sounded warning the pilots to immediately increase altitude. For unknown reasons the pilots did not respond. The plane began to break up after its left wing hit a birch tree that was between 12 and 16 inches in diameter, Mr. Morozov said. “From the time the fuselage started to break up,” Mr. Morozov said, “until its complete destruction due to its upside-down impact with the ground took five to six seconds.”
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Post by Jaga on May 19, 2010 19:23:15 GMT -7
These two extra people in the cockpit among them commander of Poland’s air force, Andrzej Blasik - were enough pressure to exert to the pilot.
This is too much of the bravado!
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Post by Eric on May 19, 2010 22:22:37 GMT -7
Even though the pilot technically has the final say regarding landing, you're right, Jaga, in that it's hard to refuse an order to land by the head of the country's air force.
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Post by Jaga on May 25, 2010 22:26:06 GMT -7
Russia to pass on copies of black box recordings
On Monday, Russia will make available copies of the data from black boxes on the Tu-154 which crashed on 10 April near Smolensk killing 96.
Poland’s Internal Affairs Minister Jerzy Miller and the Attorney General Andrzej Seremet will go to Moscow on May 31 to collect copies of the recordings.
Last week, head of the Polish State Commission on Aircraft Accidents Edmund Klich, said that he already received the first transcript of the recordings from the cockpit. Klich said he was not going to share the documents with anyone, even Prime Minister Tusk, as this would break international conventions concerning data projection.
Earlier, Klich confirmed that minutes before the crash two people other than the crew the crew were in the cockpit. One of them was Gen Blasik, Commander of the Polish Air Force, he told a private TV station last night. (mg/pg)
Source: PAP
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Post by karl on May 26, 2010 7:39:11 GMT -7
Jaga It is interesting and understandable of the stance taken by Mr. Klich. For he is at the moment, the care-taker of this privileged information until at which time he may divulge. It was prudent of the Russian holders of the investigational team results to then provide to Poland the fruits of their results, in as they should. The following url will provide basis of understanding the reasoning and recognition of need in personal protection as provided in The European International Data Protection document. With this, is provided the list of signatures. www.coe.int/t/e/legal_affairs/legal_co-operation/data_protection/privacy.med.miami.edu/glossary/xd_international_dp_conv.htmKarl
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Post by Nictoshek on Jun 7, 2010 23:38:09 GMT -7
Report of Theft From Polish Jet Bodies
By ELLEN BARRY June 7, 2010
MOSCOW — Russian servicemen used bank cards stolen from the remains of a Polish airliner that crashed April 10, withdrawing funds from the savings of one of the 96 Polish officials killed in the disaster, Russian news services reported Monday night, citing law enforcement officials.
Three servicemen assigned to guard the Smolensk airport have been arrested on suspicion of theft, an official from the Central Federal District told Interfax, speaking anonymously. Spokesmen for Russia’s Defense Ministry were not available for comment late Monday.
Prosecutors in Warsaw said that between one and three hours after the crash, about $1,700 was withdrawn using a bank card belonging to Andrzej Przewoznik, secretary general of the Council for the Protection of the Memory of Combat and Martyrdom. A statement from a spokeswoman for the Polish prosecutors, Monika Lewandowska, said the suspects were conscripted soldiers assigned to a nearby garrison, and that they made six additional unsuccessful attempts to withdraw money from a second card belonging to Mr. Przewoznik on the day of the crash.
The theft, if confirmed, could taint the atmosphere of cooperation that drew Russia and Poland together in April. Poland’s president, Lech Kaczynski, and 95 others were killed when the plane tried to land in a heavy fog on the way to a ceremony commemorating the massacre of 20,000 Polish officers by Soviet troops during World War II.
An outpouring of compassion from Russian officials — including a spontaneous embrace between Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin and his Polish counterpart — seemed to end a long chill that had set in between the two neighbors. But news reports of the theft revived mutual sniping. The news first broke Saturday in Rzeczpospolita, a daily newspaper in Poland. Pawel Gras, a spokesman for the Polish government, confirmed Sunday that three riot policemen had been arrested for stealing a credit card. The account was denied by Russia’s Interior Ministry, which issued a statement noting that Poland’s acting president had decorated four Russian officers for their service to Poland.
Mr. Gras acknowledged Monday that he had incorrectly identified the suspects as police officers, but he said his mistake “does not change the fact that a shameful act took place,” Gazeta Wyborcza reported.
According to the statement from Ms. Lewandowska, Polish authorities first reported the thefts to their Russian counterparts on May 21.
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Post by karl on Jun 8, 2010 5:38:41 GMT -7
Nictoe
As the messenger, you must be commended... But for the text of the information is very troubling.
For we as people, place our trust in the integrity of our safety officers with that of what ever they are charged in terms of our safety and protection.
It then is a shock to discover a very few that succumbed to their weaknesses and violate the trust we place with them. It then becomes a deplorable situation upon time of discovery.
I am confident the Russian authorities will make good this terrible offense at such a sensitive time.
Karl
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