Migrants make Germany DUMB

[Nictoshek]

Controversial: Thilo Sarrazin warned 'less educated' immigrants are making Germany 'dumber'

Migrants 'make Germany dumb' says central banker in astonishing outburst

By Allan Hall In Berlin
Last updated at 12:00 AM on 12th June 2010

Immigrants are making Germany 'dumber', according to a board member of the country's central bank.

Thilo Sarrazin claimed the 'limited education' of immigrants - coupled with their high birth rate - meant Germans 'are becoming dumber in a simple way'.

He said: 'There's a difference in the reproduction of population groups with varying intelligence.'

It is not the first time the 65-year-old member of the Bundesbank has caused controversy since he joined last year.

In October he described Muslim children as 'underclass' citizens.

'I don't have to accept someone who lives off a state they reject, doesn't properly take care of the education of his children-and keeps producing more little girls in headscarves,' Mr Sarrazin said.

'That goes for 70 percent of the Turkish and 90 percent of the Arabic population of Berlin.' He added that they were not fit for much other than 'fruit and vegetable selling'.

In his latest speech this week he said there were 'ample statistics' proving he was correct about German intelligence.

He went on to say that in particular immigrants from 'Turkey, the Middle East and Africa' were less educated.

Because immigrants tend to have more children than Germans - who have the lowest birth rate in Europe - this caused 'a different propagation of population groups with different intelligence because parents pass their intelligence on to their children'.

Mr Sarrazin, who was previously Germany's finance minister, has not yet apologised. It is thought his position at the Bundesbank may now be untenable.

A spokesman for a Muslim group in Berlin said: 'He is a tired old white Christian male full of prejudice and few ideas.'

But among conservatives in Germany his comments have struck a chord.

They have voiced concern that the country's three million Turks tend to live in their own communities, socialise among each other and have little in common with their German neighbours.

[pieter]

Jul 18, 2010 3:39:46 GMT -7 Nictoshek said:

Controversial: Thilo Sarrazin warned 'less educated' immigrants are making Germany 'dumber'

Migrants 'make Germany dumb' says central banker in astonishing outburst

By Allan Hall In Berlin
Last updated at 12:00 AM on 12th June 2010

Immigrants are making Germany 'dumber', according to a board member of the country's central bank.

Thilo Sarrazin claimed the 'limited education' of immigrants - coupled with their high birth rate - meant Germans 'are becoming dumber in a simple way'.

He said: 'There's a difference in the reproduction of population groups with varying intelligence.'

It is not the first time the 65-year-old member of the Bundesbank has caused controversy since he joined last year.

In October he described Muslim children as 'underclass' citizens.

'I don't have to accept someone who lives off a state they reject, doesn't properly take care of the education of his children-and keeps producing more little girls in headscarves,' Mr Sarrazin said.

'That goes for 70 percent of the Turkish and 90 percent of the Arabic population of Berlin.' He added that they were not fit for much other than 'fruit and vegetable selling'.

In his latest speech this week he said there were 'ample statistics' proving he was correct about German intelligence.

He went on to say that in particular immigrants from 'Turkey, the Middle East and Africa' were less educated.

Because immigrants tend to have more children than Germans - who have the lowest birth rate in Europe - this caused 'a different propagation of population groups with different intelligence because parents pass their intelligence on to their children'.

Mr Sarrazin, who was previously Germany's finance minister, has not yet apologised. It is thought his position at the Bundesbank may now be untenable.

A spokesman for a Muslim group in Berlin said: 'He is a tired old white Christian male full of prejudice and few ideas.'

But among conservatives in Germany his comments have struck a chord.

They have voiced concern that the country's three million Turks tend to live in their own communities, socialise among each other and have little in common with their German neighbours.

And that not only counts for Germany Nictoe, the same situation exsists in the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Great-Britain and France.

[pieter]

Nictoe,

In the same time I have to say that there is a part of the migrants who does not fit in the image which is created above here. Part of the Turks, Maroccans and other migrant minorities finish highschool, study at universities and get better positions in companies and government institutions than the majority of the their group who are mentioned in the article about Germany. You could even say that there is a segregation taking place within the migrant communities. The better learning and earning migrants tend to integrate or assimilate and move to native European neighbourhoods to escape the migrant gettho's with it's poverty, anti-integration mood, crime, unsafety and seperatist tendencies.

Pieter

[karl]

Nictoe

Interesting of introduction of subject: Herr Sarrazin..

For that of which he {Sarrzin} speaks, is a truth, but only a truth in the prospective of Berlin. For he speaks not of the entire country {Germany}. It should be though of respect to his courage, to then come forward into the lime light, with his thoughts in this respect of immigrant new Germans, for this is exactly what they are, new German people and needs be respected.

Berlin, is as most mega cities in the known industrialized world we know of, has in self an income derived from a set tax base. And as such, has for the most part, through the various departments of finance/cost analysis/expected levels of income and expected levels of expenditures.

The factor that will throw the spanner into the getrage, is unexpected spike in unforeseen expenditures as related to cost against the treasury of the city.

And this, is what the basis of Herr Sarrazin of his argument. That is the spike in immigration from lands of another culture with out the tools of education as expected of German people, then to enter or attempt to enter into the work force as a citizen.

Even though these people are required by the law of land, to have a working knowledge of language, means of financial statues, for to be expected not to draw off the social welfare programmes.

This is not occurring, even in light of currant law change over in rules of Immigration/citizenship.

What that of Herr Sarrazin is referencing, is a fact that is becoming more and more unbearable to city finances {Berlin}, with no light at end of tunnel that is foreseen.

Although at first glance, of course it would so seem as not to be forgivable of public remarks as provided by him {Sarrazin} due to his position of responsibility. But, the man is speaking of not just of his concerns, but a situation that has an effect upon not just the citizens of this city {Berlin}, but a situation with very long lasting effects upon the business climate.

The changes he {Sarrazin} is proposing as latent proposal is: With the social problems as of present, will reflect upon the cities ability to provide services. With this, a drastic change must be effected toward a new urban format.

It is simple, with out change, the quality of Berlin, is to deteriorate with over bearing cost of welfare forwarded to immigrants with out ability to enter into the work force as a responsible citizen.

For very often as not, the family circle economics follows a very well known path. It begins with the fathers and mothers of their children which is the family. The mores and expectations, unless of event of unexpectation intervenes, the off spring then continues through their lives as to be passed onto their offspring, and so on it goes. And as this proceeds, as so the cost to public finances in services and health care.

It is a circle that needs be and should be attended to. But where? and more important, How?

Karl