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Post by pieter on Jun 9, 2011 9:51:27 GMT -7
Rabia what is going on in Syria?
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Post by pieter on Jun 9, 2011 9:53:59 GMT -7
I heard and saw terrible reports of Syrian refugees and dissidents in Holland on the Dutch TV and saw sick movies on youtube of soldiers of the 4th Brigade playing with corpses of dead syrian cilivians and laying weapens next to the corpses to accuse them of attacking the regime.
The images were very graphic and horrific!
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Post by pieter on Jun 9, 2011 10:06:58 GMT -7
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Post by PolishMama on Jun 10, 2011 6:40:12 GMT -7
Oh, pieter, that's horrible! I can't watch that, my kids would see and I know I would cry. My prayers for the people and that peace comes to them very soon.
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Post by pieter on Jun 10, 2011 9:32:12 GMT -7
Polpolishmama,
I hope that a lot of people, Christians, Muslims, Jews and Druze people all over the world are praying for the Syrian and Lybian people, because these people are suffering and facing brutal opression and isolation from the outside world. Like with the Nazi's and Stalinist opressors and torturers these people of the Syrian Baath regime are like an evil force, because they lack humanity, decensy, ethics and compassion. They are destroying their own people.
Pieter
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Post by Jaga on Jun 11, 2011 13:43:47 GMT -7
I sent the e-mail to Rabia but I guess, she may be too busy. Maybe we can catch her on the facebook?
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Post by pieter on Jun 11, 2011 14:22:28 GMT -7
Karl, I understand your opinion from your personal experiance as a German Intelligence officer, for the Bundes Nachrichten Dienst (BND) or another German secret service. I know that you have experiance in Syria, South-Africa, North-America and other parts of the world. You know the world of the BND, Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV), CIA, FBI, NSA, FSB (Federalnaja sloezjba bezopasnosti), the Russian SVR (Sloezjba Vnesjnej Razvedki), the British MI5/MI6 and Scotland Yard, the Israeli Mossad and Shin Bet, the French DGSE (Direction Generale de la Securite Exterieure), the Dutch AIVD and MIVD (the Military Intelligence and Security Service of the Netherlands), and the Arab, Turkish MIT (Milli Istihbarat Teskilati) and Iranian secret services. I am interested in Rabia's view, because she is Arab, and it does not interest me if her opinion is subjective. I am interested in it because it is human. You are right that we don't know peoples internet identities, and that we have to be careful in judging or believing in the statements of individuals, groups or organisations on the net. I always try to learn from differant voices and several sources about one subject. Syria concerns me, because of the wellbeing of Syrian citizens, wether they are Sunni Muslim, Allawite, Christian, Druz, Armenian, Palestinian or Kurd. I don't like human rights violations, corruption, opressive autocratic regimes, dictatorships, and especially a regime like the Baath regime which has Fascist, Stalinist (or state socialist), militairistic roots. And I do remember the Hama massacre of 1982. The Syrian regime is connected to the Iranian Shia theocracy and dictatorship, and via that connection an allie and supporter of Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza. Syria played a bad role in Lebanon and in Jordan ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_civil_war ). I am not fond of the Muslim Brotherhood either, but I don't know if Jihadist or Salafist forces are behind the revolutions in the Arab world. I think that there are secular groups of young people and ordinairy civilians who want an end to corruption, opression and dictatorship. They want Freedom and democracy and they use social media like Facebook, Twitter, blogs and e-mail. Pieter |
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Post by karl on Jun 11, 2011 19:07:33 GMT -7
Pieter
Thank you for your very fine reply. For it was my intention to delete before it was to be disclosed, how ever as it is, you were the swifter. None the less, I have completed deletion for security reasons.
Pieter, I well understand your position in the situation of Rabia in the empathic manner of understanding. For there are several matters of situational aspects here that are not necessarily complicated, but rather straight forward for as you have rightly brought forth. Rabia has insight upon the Arab aspect that you hold interest in. For this, I failed to provide proper understanding, and to this end, I hold a great deal of regret.
I do not lean upon excuses, and of this, needs be provide to you, my deepest regrets for my lack of sensitivity and understanding at a moment of possible embarrassment to you...
I am sorry:
Even though we still live in a primitive world of sophistication, it is to us as demonstrative as people of conscience.
Karl
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