Post by pieter on Dec 2, 2005 15:40:33 GMT -7
I look to the world of fine arts, Media and culture from the production side and the consumer side, because I paint, make images (photography) and write, and in the same time collect art books and books about photography, history and politics. Besides that I consume art, because I visit Museums of Modern art, ancient art, Art galleries, Expositions and Biennales of contemporary art (Kassel) if I have the time and money for that. I could'nt live without the arts and culture, and so also respect the other side of that, the theoretical, sociological and political part of art and culture.
The art critics who write their articles and essays in Newspapers and magazines, write books and give lectures and organise Forums, debates, TV programs and make documentries and movies about art developments, artists and art movements.
The art historians who create art history together with the artists they see as a study object, and artists themselves who add their images and words to interviews and documentries. The Museum directors who put their mark on the collections of their
Museums, very influenctial people, very powerful and constructive.
Good leaders of Museums have made their contribution to the artworld and art history. In the Netherlands people who love art remember the famous directors Willem Sandberg
www.eyemagazine.com/review.php?id=123&rid=580
and Rudi Fuchs
www.artnet.com/magazine/features/esman/esman5-12-03.asp
While in other countries directors of Museums of Modern art are not generally known by the public in the Netherlands they are nearly public celebraties. The commercial, trade and political organisation side of the cultural institutions, foundations, companies, groups and schools (=directions in art) is ofcourse as important as the arts and culture itself, because it is the financial, economical and social-cultural foundation of the fine arts,
the structure which keeps it going. Materials, studio's, exhibitions, time (yes Time-management), labour, documentation, archives, stock, restauration, the study of art and culture and the recreation around it (art travelling, art tourism, art as part of
education, art heritage and art awareness of people) cost money.
Where professional artists can be hostile or moody towards amateur artists, art critics, art organisers and art dealers, these people are necassery for dynamics, development and innovation in the arts, because in the tense exchange and communication between the professionals and their spectators, the amateurs that are inspired by professional artists, art history and museums that attract compatriots and foreign tourists. Documenta in Kassel for me was like a Mekka for Muslims; fellow artists of all over Europe, America and the rest of the world, students, intellectuals (art critics, journalists and collectioners), art loving people. A short paradise of recognition, in the ability for a short moment
to experiance the spirit of the age, being in the here and now, seeing, hearing, watching what it is all about. Where we are doing it for.
This immense halls, Classicist German buildings and palaces with thousands of photographs, movies, video's, sculptures, paintings, drawings, texts, audio work.
In Arnhem I live in a cultural community of painters, sculpturers, photographers, theatre makers, musicians, dancers, poets and organisers (the cultural management that makes culture possible).
I like the arts and artworld, because I can step out of it every now and then, and because I live in the Perifery of it. Fortunately I also know "normal" people, and have my family,
friends and colleages outside the cultural world. Because sometimes the art scene (close inner cirlce of the art community) can be a littlebit infective, inbreeding. For decades artists have relations with eachother, several people having had the same partner (in differant era's), go to the same pubs, the same exhebitions,dancings, private parties, festivals, gatherings, restaurants, cinema's, supermarkets, recreation places in the summer and etc. I avoid the drugs, alcoholism and decadence of a part of the hedonist art world. I have to explain my little distance sometimes from the art community.
There are mental ill (psychiatric) people amongst them (also some artist friends of mine are Manic-depressive or Depressive/psychotic. I appreciate them, they are not a problem, because they face their illness, and can live very well with the propper medication), suicidal persons and alcoholists and Junkies under artists.
Art is a mystery and an Utopic vision in my experiance of it. It has something Messianistic, and in that persepctive competes with religions and political ideologies.
The crossover between art and culture in general for me is Christiane F, Fasbinders Berlin Alexander Platz, Junkie look (Fashion in the ninetees, the anorexia models), Bret easton Ellis, William Burroughs, Charles Bukowski, www.francis-bacon.cx/ , Andy Warhols Silver Factory, Studio 54, Glamour, succes, rise and fall. Jef Koons, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Robert Rayschenberg, Nikifor, Tadeusz Kantor, Anselm Kiefer, Gerhard Richter and Lucien Freud; www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/freud/ I live in the Modern world and so have to deal with Post-Modernism and contemporary art. I love the first half of the 20th century, especially the interbellum between the two world wars in Middle Europe, Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. German expressionism (Die Brucke, die Blaue Reiter, die Rheinische Sezession), Russian constructivism (Suprematism, Proun, Malevitz and Lissitizky), Dada, Fauvism (Matisse), Italian Futurism, Otto Dix and Georg Grosch, De Stijl (Stile) of Piet Mondriaan (Victory Boogie Woogie), Theo van Doesburg and Bart van der Leck and Edvard Hopper (Hotel rooms with lonely people in the thirtees).
In my perosnal view on art it is important to stay in contact with people outside the artworld to stay fresh and clean. By standing with one foot in the art world and with another in the ordinary Duch society I can survive very well. I like meeting Adam, Wojtek and Scatts (Ian Scattergoodfrom) Warsaw here, and and Jaga via Michael Pieslack from Germany via the internet and the fact that I was able to meet other Poles too via the Forum.
It is very important for me to reconnect with Poland and Poles, because Poland feeds the soul and the important cultural heritage. The country is connected to Europe and also to the shared cultural, scientific, political, economical and artistic past, present and future.
Pieter
The art critics who write their articles and essays in Newspapers and magazines, write books and give lectures and organise Forums, debates, TV programs and make documentries and movies about art developments, artists and art movements.
The art historians who create art history together with the artists they see as a study object, and artists themselves who add their images and words to interviews and documentries. The Museum directors who put their mark on the collections of their
Museums, very influenctial people, very powerful and constructive.
Good leaders of Museums have made their contribution to the artworld and art history. In the Netherlands people who love art remember the famous directors Willem Sandberg
www.eyemagazine.com/review.php?id=123&rid=580
and Rudi Fuchs
www.artnet.com/magazine/features/esman/esman5-12-03.asp
While in other countries directors of Museums of Modern art are not generally known by the public in the Netherlands they are nearly public celebraties. The commercial, trade and political organisation side of the cultural institutions, foundations, companies, groups and schools (=directions in art) is ofcourse as important as the arts and culture itself, because it is the financial, economical and social-cultural foundation of the fine arts,
the structure which keeps it going. Materials, studio's, exhibitions, time (yes Time-management), labour, documentation, archives, stock, restauration, the study of art and culture and the recreation around it (art travelling, art tourism, art as part of
education, art heritage and art awareness of people) cost money.
Where professional artists can be hostile or moody towards amateur artists, art critics, art organisers and art dealers, these people are necassery for dynamics, development and innovation in the arts, because in the tense exchange and communication between the professionals and their spectators, the amateurs that are inspired by professional artists, art history and museums that attract compatriots and foreign tourists. Documenta in Kassel for me was like a Mekka for Muslims; fellow artists of all over Europe, America and the rest of the world, students, intellectuals (art critics, journalists and collectioners), art loving people. A short paradise of recognition, in the ability for a short moment
to experiance the spirit of the age, being in the here and now, seeing, hearing, watching what it is all about. Where we are doing it for.
This immense halls, Classicist German buildings and palaces with thousands of photographs, movies, video's, sculptures, paintings, drawings, texts, audio work.
In Arnhem I live in a cultural community of painters, sculpturers, photographers, theatre makers, musicians, dancers, poets and organisers (the cultural management that makes culture possible).
I like the arts and artworld, because I can step out of it every now and then, and because I live in the Perifery of it. Fortunately I also know "normal" people, and have my family,
friends and colleages outside the cultural world. Because sometimes the art scene (close inner cirlce of the art community) can be a littlebit infective, inbreeding. For decades artists have relations with eachother, several people having had the same partner (in differant era's), go to the same pubs, the same exhebitions,dancings, private parties, festivals, gatherings, restaurants, cinema's, supermarkets, recreation places in the summer and etc. I avoid the drugs, alcoholism and decadence of a part of the hedonist art world. I have to explain my little distance sometimes from the art community.
There are mental ill (psychiatric) people amongst them (also some artist friends of mine are Manic-depressive or Depressive/psychotic. I appreciate them, they are not a problem, because they face their illness, and can live very well with the propper medication), suicidal persons and alcoholists and Junkies under artists.
Art is a mystery and an Utopic vision in my experiance of it. It has something Messianistic, and in that persepctive competes with religions and political ideologies.
The crossover between art and culture in general for me is Christiane F, Fasbinders Berlin Alexander Platz, Junkie look (Fashion in the ninetees, the anorexia models), Bret easton Ellis, William Burroughs, Charles Bukowski, www.francis-bacon.cx/ , Andy Warhols Silver Factory, Studio 54, Glamour, succes, rise and fall. Jef Koons, Jean-Michel Basquiat, Robert Rayschenberg, Nikifor, Tadeusz Kantor, Anselm Kiefer, Gerhard Richter and Lucien Freud; www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/freud/ I live in the Modern world and so have to deal with Post-Modernism and contemporary art. I love the first half of the 20th century, especially the interbellum between the two world wars in Middle Europe, Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. German expressionism (Die Brucke, die Blaue Reiter, die Rheinische Sezession), Russian constructivism (Suprematism, Proun, Malevitz and Lissitizky), Dada, Fauvism (Matisse), Italian Futurism, Otto Dix and Georg Grosch, De Stijl (Stile) of Piet Mondriaan (Victory Boogie Woogie), Theo van Doesburg and Bart van der Leck and Edvard Hopper (Hotel rooms with lonely people in the thirtees).
In my perosnal view on art it is important to stay in contact with people outside the artworld to stay fresh and clean. By standing with one foot in the art world and with another in the ordinary Duch society I can survive very well. I like meeting Adam, Wojtek and Scatts (Ian Scattergoodfrom) Warsaw here, and and Jaga via Michael Pieslack from Germany via the internet and the fact that I was able to meet other Poles too via the Forum.
It is very important for me to reconnect with Poland and Poles, because Poland feeds the soul and the important cultural heritage. The country is connected to Europe and also to the shared cultural, scientific, political, economical and artistic past, present and future.
Pieter
but I have to say that there a differnce between the the 'pragmatic' art and the art that cannot be used in any other way than by the mind, soul, whtaever we call it. I mean I precive such objects quite differently, can't help that 
