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Post by Jaga on Oct 24, 2006 8:07:58 GMT -7
While on Kona island we visited a couple of Kona coffee plantations where we were able to see how coffee is picked, processed and roasted, how the grains are separated from many shells, how it is finally . We could drink free samples of some coffee It is quite expensive since Kona coffee has a high reputation - it is the second best coffee in the world! The price of this coffee reminded me the times in Poland when coffee and any imported goods where extremely expensive. 4 kilo (8 pounds) of coffee was equal to 1 monthly salary! My family was lucky since we had friends in Germany they were sending us lots of delicious German coffee which we shared with our family and friends! So, basically in that hard time we learned what good coffee really is!
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Post by justjohn on Oct 27, 2006 3:26:09 GMT -7
Hi Jaga,
Kona coffee is delicious. My daughter Jamie brought some when she visited. Surprising though, is that I can buy it at the local BJ's store here in New Hampshire. At one time they carried it in Sam's.
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Post by rdywenur on Oct 27, 2006 3:40:14 GMT -7
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Post by bescheid on Oct 27, 2006 4:49:16 GMT -7
My goodness, I had forgotten of Kona coffee until now as you mentioned. It is very delicious with a very nice flavour.
Not sure the expert manner of making by professionals, but, it seem to work good with fresh boiled water poured over the grounds for a slow drain through the filter. I have always held suspicion of using paper filters for a taste transfer from the paper fibers. The bronze metal filters have no transfer, but, very messy for clean up.
Charles
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Post by piwo on Oct 27, 2006 6:42:11 GMT -7
My goodness, I had forgotten of Kona coffee until now as you mentioned. It is very delicious with a very nice flavour. Not sure the expert manner of making by professionals, but, it seem to work good with fresh boiled water poured over the grounds for a slow drain through the filter. I have always held suspicion of using paper filters for a taste transfer from the paper fibers. The bronze metal filters have no transfer, but, very messy for clean up. Charles You are so right Charles, any paper filter will remove flavor from your coffee. The method universally agreed to make the most flavorful coffee is the so called "french press". This is a method that makes coffee much like tea, and use of a screen filter as opposed to paper, which traps oils, and oils are what gives the coffee it's flavor. Here's a link for those who have never seen or tried one. www.ineedcoffee.com/99/05/frenchpress/I have several inexpensive "presses", and one can make their coffee as strong or mild as they wish, just by the amount of time they let it "steep". To do so correctly, your coffe must be ground a bit coarser then for drip makers. I buy and grind my beans, or get my coffee from a coffee shop that will grind to the appropriate consistency for the appropriate brewing method. Give it a try, but don't bother with cheap, crapola coffee. Get some good stuff, and try a french press! And if you can get ahold of some li hing mango's to munch on with your coffee, you will be in heavan! kona kava lover in Kaaawa....
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Post by bescheid on Oct 27, 2006 7:59:55 GMT -7
My goodness, I had forgotten of Kona coffee until now as you mentioned. It is very delicious with a very nice flavour. Not sure the expert manner of making by professionals, but, it seem to work good with fresh boiled water poured over the grounds for a slow drain through the filter. I have always held suspicion of using paper filters for a taste transfer from the paper fibers. The bronze metal filters have no transfer, but, very messy for clean up. Charles You are so right Charles, any paper filter will remove flavor from your coffee. The method universally agreed to make the most flavorful coffee is the so called "french press". This is a method that makes coffee much like tea, and use of a screen filter as opposed to paper, which traps oils, and oils are what gives the coffee it's flavor. Here's a link for those who have never seen or tried one. www.ineedcoffee.com/99/05/frenchpress/I have several inexpensive "presses", and one can make their coffee as strong or mild as they wish, just by the amount of time they let it "steep". To do so correctly, your coffe must be ground a bit coarser then for drip makers. I buy and grind my beans, or get my coffee from a coffee shop that will grind to the appropriate consistency for the appropriate brewing method. Give it a try, but don't bother with cheap, crapola coffee. Get some good stuff, and try a french press! And if you can get ahold of some li hing mango's to munch on with your coffee, you will be in heavan! kona kava lover in Kaaawa.... Yep, piwo, you have it, the French press is the best. I say this and yet, whilst growing up, we used the vacuum pot coffee maker. The two piece one, as the bottom pot heats up, the water goes up into the upper pot and mixes with the coffee grounds, then peculates down into the bottom pot now empty. Then swift as an eye blink, remove the top pot. Now, Anne likes her coffee the way it is made with quick electric off shelf Target plastic models.{ I do not quibble, for I must live in the same castle}. One last thought though. Years back whilst in Canada, the lady of the house, made morning coffee by pouring cold water over coffee grounds in a large pot. As the pot begin to boil, she moved the boiling pot to the side of the stove {wood} then after a few minutes, poured a dapple of cold water to settle the grounds. We just then dipped out coffee for our cups. On those loused, frosted winter mornings, that coffee sure tasted good! Charles
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Post by piwo on Oct 27, 2006 8:44:16 GMT -7
We call that "camp coffee".. It's how the cowboys (and campers) make it. Boiled in a pot, and the splash of cold water makes the grounds "drop to the bottom".. It does taste good that way as well! I grew up with my babcia, and she always had two "percelators", (the type you describe in the beginning of your post): when one was empty, she started the second. I started drinking this coffee when I was 5 years old, and my addiction is indisputable! If I told you process I go through each morning to make our small group coffee, you'd fall out of your chair and laugh!
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Post by bescheid on Oct 27, 2006 8:51:13 GMT -7
We call that "camp coffee".. It's how the cowboys (and campers) make it. Boiled in a pot, and the splash of cold water makes the grounds "drop to the bottom".. It does taste good that way as well! I grew up with my babcia, and she always had two "percelators", (the type you describe in the beginning of your post): when one was empty, she started the second. I started drinking this coffee when I was 5 years old, and my addiction is indisputable! If I told you process I go through each morning to make our small group coffee, you'd fall out of your chair and laugh! Camp/cowboy coffee, that has an action filled ring to it, I like it It certainly looks like we both grew up on the same coffee!! Now then, I will strap my self into my chair for a heavy take off and landing...... How do you make your morning coffee? Charles
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Post by piwo on Oct 27, 2006 11:13:06 GMT -7
Well, I don't normally like to share my level of insanity, but for you Charles.... Firstly, some history. Our company did away with the free coffee several years ago. Take that back, they did away with plentiful, easily accessible free coffee. You must walk to another building to get a free cup of watered down gutter water they pawn off as coffee. This is not the reason we make our own, my small group was doing it a few years before they made it difficult to get that swill, because we like GOOD coffee. Problem was, when they did away with the free easily accessible coffee, they also removed the coffee makers that were all over the building. This was a problem for us, since what we did was use our own filters, coffee, and put our own Carafe under their drip makers, and SHAZAM: good coffee! So now for the past few years, we've had to improvise. We have no coffee makers, but we have water, and we have microwaves. Now, no one need lecture me on the dangers of boiling water in a microwave, as I am fully aware of the findings and the phenomena that can occur. What I do every morning is this: I slide my laptop into the docking station, and start to boot it up. I then grab the two 4 cup pyrex glass measuring cups and put 3.5 cups of hot tap water in each, and start the microwave for 15 minutes. I then go back to my desk, measure out two coffee filters with the appropriate amount of coffee, and begin answering emails and such. After 12 minutes, I take the 8 cup Pyrex glass measure and go to a different "pantry", where thy have microwaves AND a hot water dispenser. I fill my 8 cup measure with the already hot water, and microwave for 11 minutes. I then walk directly to the other pantry, take the two 4-cup measures out of the microwave and go back to my desk. On top of our carafe, we have a large coffee basket with a filter and the coffee, and I pour the hot water (both measures) over the grinds and let it drip into the carafe. When that's done, I dump the grounds in the trash can, load up the 2nd filter into the basket, and retrieve the 8 cup measure. I dip a 4 cup measure into the 8 cup measure and begin pouring that water into the basket and let it drip into the carafe. In the end, I have two filters of grinds in my trash can, and a Carafe full of GOOD quality coffee! The process takes about 20 minutes, but only about 8 of which involves me. The rest of the time I'm at my desk. I tell folks it's a pain in the dupa, but life is too short to drink bad coffee, and it doesn't take me any more of my time then it does for someone to go to the building with the cafeteria and get a cup of coffee from them. We have 5 guys who pitch in $5 a month, and buy coffee from Costco, and a touch of flavored coffee from a grocery store, and I mix my own blend.... Pure heaven.......... There are people in the building when someone doesn’t know who I am, someone will say, : “you know, the coffee guy” and everyone knows. So many people tell me the room smells so good after I’ve been there, and I tell them there are worse things in life to be remembered for! Smacznego!
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Post by scatts on Oct 27, 2006 11:14:24 GMT -7
No. THIS is camp coffee and it's quite terrible stuff: I can't get Kona or Gevalia here in Warsaw and indeed I've never heard of nor tasted them. My available faves are Illy (red), Pellini Top and Molinari (5 star), which come in tins and are brewed in our espresso machine.
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Post by jimpres on Oct 27, 2006 11:20:42 GMT -7
John,
Can't agree with you more. Life is short to drink bad coffee. The place I worked at had coffee makers and Kona to pour into the filters to make good coffee. Made it every mornign for 6 years. And instant coffee is like hot water to me. So I don't drink it at all not even when I can't get coffee. I buy good coffee for making a good cup of coffee.
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Post by piwo on Oct 27, 2006 12:10:47 GMT -7
No. THIS is camp coffee and it's quite terrible stuff: I can't get Kona or Gevalia here in Warsaw and indeed I've never heard of nor tasted them. My available faves are Illy (red), Pellini Top and Molinari (5 star), which come in tins and are brewed in our espresso machine. LOL.. Good one scatts... I too have tried a different brand of Chicory coffee, and I didn't like it at all either!
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Post by bescheid on Oct 27, 2006 14:10:51 GMT -7
Well, I don't normally like to share my level of insanity, but for you Charles.... Firstly, some history. Our company did away with the free coffee several years ago. Take that back, they did away with plentiful, easily accessible free coffee. You must walk to another building to get a free cup of watered down gutter water they pawn off as coffee. This is not the reason we make our own, my small group was doing it a few years before they made it difficult to get that swill, because we like GOOD coffee. Problem was, when they did away with the free easily accessible coffee, they also removed the coffee makers that were all over the building. This was a problem for us, since what we did was use our own filters, coffee, and put our own Carafe under their drip makers, and SHAZAM: good coffee! So now for the past few years, we've had to improvise. We have no coffee makers, but we have water, and we have microwaves. Now, no one need lecture me on the dangers of boiling water in a microwave, as I am fully aware of the findings and the phenomena that can occur. What I do every morning is this: I slide my laptop into the docking station, and start to boot it up. I then grab the two 4 cup pyrex glass measuring cups and put 3.5 cups of hot tap water in each, and start the microwave for 15 minutes. I then go back to my desk, measure out two coffee filters with the appropriate amount of coffee, and begin answering emails and such. After 12 minutes, I take the 8 cup Pyrex glass measure and go to a different "pantry", where thy have microwaves AND a hot water dispenser. I fill my 8 cup measure with the already hot water, and microwave for 11 minutes. I then walk directly to the other pantry, take the two 4-cup measures out of the microwave and go back to my desk. On top of our carafe, we have a large coffee basket with a filter and the coffee, and I pour the hot water (both measures) over the grinds and let it drip into the carafe. When that's done, I dump the grounds in the trash can, load up the 2nd filter into the basket, and retrieve the 8 cup measure. I dip a 4 cup measure into the 8 cup measure and begin pouring that water into the basket and let it drip into the carafe. In the end, I have two filters of grinds in my trash can, and a Carafe full of GOOD quality coffee! The process takes about 20 minutes, but only about 8 of which involves me. The rest of the time I'm at my desk. I tell folks it's a pain in the dupa, but life is too short to drink bad coffee, and it doesn't take me any more of my time then it does for someone to go to the building with the cafeteria and get a cup of coffee from them. We have 5 guys who pitch in $5 a month, and buy coffee from Costco, and a touch of flavored coffee from a grocery store, and I mix my own blend.... Pure heaven.......... There are people in the building when someone doesn’t know who I am, someone will say, : “you know, the coffee guy” and everyone knows. So many people tell me the room smells so good after I’ve been there, and I tell them there are worse things in life to be remembered for! Smacznego! Oh my! You were right, what a process of torture. But, on the other hand, I still carry memories of office coffee. It was the office coffee or the cafeteria as there were no other options and that was a loseable option if any of the machines or computer keyboards were ever damaged by any spillege. Charles
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Post by bujno on Oct 31, 2006 12:47:06 GMT -7
I can't get Kona or Gevalia here in Warsaw and indeed I've never heard of nor tasted them. Scatts, try 'Po¿egnanie z Afryk¹' chain of shops, they sell Kona coffee. One is at ulica Freta in Nowe Miasto, another one in the BUW (Warsaw University Library) building in ulica Dobra. The other shops of this chain are at some of the great malls, but I don't remember which ones.
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Post by Jaga on Oct 31, 2006 20:57:23 GMT -7
Even in Kona island the coffee which we were getting in the hotel was.... 10% Hawaian coffee, not even kona coffee! Kona coffee is just so expensive
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