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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 17, 2012 15:15:34 GMT -7
Shades of Saddam Husein:
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Post by pieter on Nov 18, 2012 4:35:01 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Nov 18, 2012 8:28:33 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Nov 18, 2012 9:38:45 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2012 9:47:59 GMT -7
Pieter
It was good of you for this presentation of the currant and present situation that is Gaza. How the people are living, the conditions, the fear that is of Israel.
It is interesting of at least to us, the Arab casual manner of handling explosives with corresponding carelessness in not conducting a continuity test first of the electric fusing apparatus before triggering the power switches. For as of notice by the filming crew, irresponsibility of transport of potentially unstable explosives through a heavily populated area that was not properly secured.
It is as above, a good reason of so many young people, and few old.
Thank you for presenting this as an informational content of the Gaza. For those wishing to view as information, is a plus in understanding the world we live in.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Nov 18, 2012 10:00:35 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Nov 18, 2012 10:23:04 GMT -7
Frankly, I don't think that Obama can do anything differently. He does not support Israel's bombing Gaza, but the US politics is so pro-Israel. He would be comdemned if he shows any support to Palestine instead of Netanyahu. Netanyahu is a crazy man but he has much better press in the US than Obama. Think about Sarkozy/Obama exchange about Netanyahu. Obama was blamed on it in the US! Zarkozy, who is half-Jew was saying that he cannot stand N. sometimes.
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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2012 14:18:44 GMT -7
Pieter
Thank you once again for the youtube presentation, for in self is self explanatory of the events presently occurring in the Gaza/Israel situation.
Hamas is as they have always portrayed them selves for they have not attempted to cloak them selves as other then terrorist. At least, they are honest.
What they are doing though, is to promote them selves at the expense of the common good that makes up the Palestinian people. To as Israeli intelligence has shown, fired 650 rockets into Israel which in self, equates to 650 launch sites.
No matter in which direction the cake is cut, that is a very very large number of rockets fired over the heads of Israelis and into Israel.
In light of the currant and present situation of reality. The International community needs be stay out of the Middle East with their weapons/ammunition and supplies.
Israel has the right to defend its self, and more then likely will do so.
Israel once fought a terrible war in this land formally of Canaan and paid a terrible price for it at the expense of the indigenous people living on that land. It was hand to eye combat and the sword by necessity to all living creatures of that land, rather it be children/mothers/warriors/animals of burden, all that lived was destroyed.
Not saying this is the case here, but some where, the line must be drawn in the dirt and to cross that line needs be at the peril of the transgressor.
Karl
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Post by Jaga on Nov 20, 2012 22:29:54 GMT -7
According to Israel, they are doing superhuman effords to avoid collateral damage.... that means they send the leaflets before they send a bomb.
Well, what about if I would just let my neighbor know 5 seconds before I would try to kill him. Is this superhuman action?
I also learned that Israel STARTED it because the election time is coming. So they want ro scare their people into voting for Netanyahu.... just like 4 years ago. By the way, it was ISRAEL that broke the truce by sending a missile to kill Hamas commander.
Why so many people believe in such nonsense that Israel can do everything they want for American money, kill people, start wars and.... the US cannot even control it?
I was just thinking about these poor people outside the Palestinian ghetto that cannot have a normal night life in Israel now, since they need to worry about their safety......
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Post by pieter on Nov 21, 2012 5:00:24 GMT -7
Well, what about if I would just let my neighbor know 5 seconds before I would try to kill him. Is this superhuman action? Jaga, I hope that you will spare the life of your pour neighbour, because they did not throw fireworks or rockets on your house. ;D Cheers, Pieter
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Post by pieter on Nov 21, 2012 5:14:51 GMT -7
Jaga,
In my opinion the USA should not support any militairy power in the middle east, because pumping billions of dollars in the arms supllies to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Israel is a waste of Amercian tax dollars money. These countries are rich enough to buy and manifacture their own arms.
Some Zionists agree with me:
Cheers, Pieter
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 21, 2012 5:24:32 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Nov 21, 2012 6:23:08 GMT -7
***Jaga,
I hope that you will spare the life of your pour neighbour, because they did not throw fireworks or rockets on your house +++
if I'd kidnap my neighbor and keep him in my small dungeon, give him some food and water but no books or entertainment. I will not allow him to leave my dungeon and monitor closely what he is doing. Should I be surprised that he would occupy his time with making paper rockets with fertilizer and send at me?
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Post by Jaga on Nov 21, 2012 6:23:58 GMT -7
Nictoe - interesting picture of explosion through minaret towers
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Post by Bob S on Nov 21, 2012 7:19:10 GMT -7
Jaga, et al in this forum; Pietre did a womderful job in his explanation. The code of Hammurabi was a very good advancement but, it did have one serious flaw and injustice when it came to "an eye for an eye"; for example, "when a house fell and killed the son of the householder, the guilty builder must also suffer the loss of his son, and the innocent son was therefore condemned to die". as for Hammas: I put the blame directly at their feet. Throught these many years Isreal suffered many bombings, which resulted in a lot of killings and injuries and no one in the world cared or said a peep. Finally after rocket attacks by Hammas, isreal responded. This is not a Zero-sum or P.C. game, it is a matter of life or death. Hammas is nothing but a surrogate for Iran and Egypt. Hammas and their ilk have a corrupt and misguided understanding of what their religion and the Koran say. It is up to Hammas and not Isreal to seek peace and not the other way. If Palastinians want more space than Egypt and the rest of the countries in the Middle East can contribute a lot of their empty space to that developement. a lot of innocent German civilians were injured or killed when the Allies bombed Germany durinf WW2 and no one was upset by that; why should there be a difference now? The Palastinian people can negoiate and ask for peace if they do it in erenest but so far this has not happened. The only thing we hear is for the compete destruction of Isreal and all Jews. I think we all heard that same Song and Dance before.
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