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Post by Jaga on Oct 2, 2007 23:04:05 GMT -7
I am preparing the speech to the toastmaster and I will be also talking about different aspects of life in DEVELOPED countries. I found the list of the countries which belong to the 10 most developed countries in the world (the list actually contain more that 10). Is there in this list any other country except the US which does not have universal health insurance? I could not find any, I checked Japan and Australia, I think that all European countries do have some type of universal health coverage.
If this is the case
Is it not amazing that the US is the ONLY developed country without any system of universal health insurance? If not, please correct me. below is the list:
Here is the list of 10 most developed countries in the world based on the level of industrialisation and the HDI (Humand Development Index) index:
1. USA
2. United Kingdom
3. Canada
4. Japan
5. France
6. Germany
7. Italy
8. Norway - Iceland -Denmark - Sweden
9. Netherlands - Belgium -Luxembourg
10. Australia.
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Bob S
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Post by Bob S on Oct 4, 2007 20:17:01 GMT -7
;D Jaga. If America gets socialized medical care; where will the people from countries with socialized medicin go? Are the Canadians, with socialized medicine comming to America for their care? or, are Americans flocking to Canada for their socialized medicine? Are the people from countries with socialized medicine comming to America for their medical care? or, are Americans flocking to countries with socialized medicine for their care? A better idea would be to have a "loser pays in civil lawsuits". As it is, many people consider visiting a doctor or going to a hospital as a chance to win the lottery.   |
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Post by Jaga on Oct 6, 2007 16:24:24 GMT -7
Bob,
I do not think that people from countries without socialized medicine can go to the countries with scialized medicine. The socialized medicine of any country is this country's citizens, as far as I remember.
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Post by rdywenur on Oct 6, 2007 19:10:44 GMT -7
Jaga there are many Americans that go to Canada for surgery. Also for certain drugs...cheaper or not available here. Since we are so close to the Canadian border we see this maybe more than other states/cities. (won't see this downstate as mcuh as here)
I had some friends go for laser eye surgery before it was more popular here.
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Post by kaima on Oct 6, 2007 20:52:05 GMT -7
I was just looking onto a trip to Argentina and they offer health care to everyone, including travelers and foreigners. It sounds like good conservative Christian principles are put into practice down there! Just to reconfirm what I found before I looked it up again and found
Health in Argentina
Health in Argentina
"MEDICAL TREATMENT
In Argentina, there are many hospitals and clinics that have advanced health-care system and highly trained doctors, Argentina is a desirable destination for medical tourism, health care is available free of charge to all, including foreigners, through the public health system, but the quality is less than in private hospitals. the hospitals offers everything from bypass surgery to ultrasonic liposuction, you can receive a first-class health-care at a cost relatively low. In addition, medical care, is good in Argentina, hospital have appropriate equipment for emergency cases, doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment for health services, and a visit to a physician costs from US$17 up to US$50. "
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george
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Post by george on Oct 7, 2007 7:18:14 GMT -7
Jaga.... I think universal health care is coming to America. Its coming in drips and drabs. It will not be better health care, but it will cover more people and it will contain preventitive care which is lacking. Health care here is great if your healthy or have a good plan from work and if the premeiums are reasonable.
In so far as which one is better, private or socialized medicine? What was the name of the last country that we know of which switched over from universal health care to the private system?
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Post by Jaga on Oct 7, 2007 9:25:59 GMT -7
Chris,
if you go to Canada for a surgery but you are not a citizen there I think you have to pay at least something. Maybe it is cheaper than here but still.
+++Jaga.... I think universal health care is coming to America. Its coming in drips and drabs. It will not be better health care, but it will cover more people and it will contain preventitive care which is lacking. Health care here is great if your healthy or have a good plan from work and if the premeiums are reasonable.
In so far as which one is better, private or socialized medicine? What was the name of the last country that we know of which switched over from universal health care to the private system? +++
I agree, some type of socialized medicine is needed here even if it is not perfect. For now, all tax money just go to wars.
I do not think there is a country which switched completely from socialized to private medicine...Poland has bery not perfect system but it still have a socialized medicine although it has more private also.
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Post by rdywenur on Oct 7, 2007 9:33:59 GMT -7
Yes ...she had to pay for the surgery herself (would not be covered by her health insurance) Still it was cheaper based on the Canadian exchange at the time. As far as universal insurance...from what I hear of the Canadians...you must wait for surgeries in line. I don't think that is something I would be voting for. It is already bad enough with HMO's deciding what they will be covering or not. So if you are healthy it is no problem. It is the ones that truly need the care and immediately that are at risk with both.
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