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Post by Jaga on Feb 25, 2008 16:14:07 GMT -7
Guys, it was dark and it was snowing yesterday. I went to my computer and checked the list of lectures available on video and audio and found the one about how to be happy and positive. This is not an easy-fix lecture but it tells a lot how to change our own atittude in life. Frankly it helped me at least until now but I plan to implement it really in my life. Please check it here. I listened to it in the version video. It talks about how easily we get used to things: forum.wgbh.org/wgbh/forum.php?lecture_id=3283I recommend it to everybody. By the way, here are plenty of lectures available free, some have nice videos: lecturefox.com/lots of science but also psychology. I already listened to some available in Physics.
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Post by nathanael on Mar 14, 2008 4:50:23 GMT -7
This stuff sounds like "New Age," Gurdjieff/ Madame Blavatsky, and Norman Vincent Peale. The essence of "New Age" can be summarized in a belief in two worlds: the inner world and the outer world. The science of living, say the New Agers, "is experiencing the best of the inner world and the best of the outer world" - more exactly, the "positive of both worlds." There is a correlation between the New Age mentality and Gurdjieff's theosophy. Gurdjieff emphasized the "context setting" and the "attention on the positive." Blavatsky's motto was: "I will bless mankind by freeing them from their mental bondage" (cf. Bruce Campbell, Ancient Wisdom Revived, U of California Press, 1980, p. 6). Blavatsky stressed "cosmological beliefs and self-spirituality, to off-set the negative." Norman Vincent Peale, of course, is the father of "positive thinking." Under the guise of "applied Christianity," he taught the "cultivation of peace of mind" and "the channeling of spiritual power through one's thoughts," as "spiritual techniques leading to health, happiness, and well-being." All these thinkers stressed the need "to channel to oneself the creative powers of the universe" (remember Hitler and his Wodan beliefs in the Almighty Nature?). Sounds familiar: that's what Ophrah has been saying about "summoning the Force." Once the "powers" are channeled, by human autonomous effort (not by God's Grace), and I stress that, we are told "to believe in ourselves and to release those inner powers into the world." The New Agers' "system" is today being universally peddled as "a perfected and amazing method of successful living." The problem is obvious: the positive thinkers rule out any negativism and cross stemming from the defense of God's truths! Truth is the obligatory casualty of New Age, and with truth all that is genuinely from God! The sad thing is that humanity, weakened by its inner torment, absorbs unbeknowst this spiritually-damaging utopia, like a mindless sponge!
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Post by rdywenur on Mar 14, 2008 5:01:55 GMT -7
Don't think doom and gloom, stay away from negative people for they will bring you down. Think of the good side of something rather than the bad. Keep drawing positive energy to yourself. How's that. Stop feeding your ego and just be thankful to be alive.
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Post by nathanael on Mar 14, 2008 6:18:55 GMT -7
Don't think doom and gloom, stay away from negative people for they will bring you down. Think of the good side of something rather than the bad. Keep drawing positive energy to yourself. How's that. Stop feeding your ego and just be thankful to be alive. I am not sure what you are trying to say, Rydwenur. Please be more specific when you say something. One might get the impression that you are criticizing me for the views that I have expressed. Or are you addressing us all, paraphrasing what I have said in your own words? If the latter is true, I agree with your "reformulation" - this is exactly what I have said about positive thinking philosophy! But, if the former is the case, then I beg you: please back off! My views are my views, and your views are your views! That is the golden principle of all civilized discourse! You are free to criticize my viewpoints. But you are not permitted to make a correlation with regard to the person expressing those views! And remember that on this forum there is no "us and you"!(see your post reply #28 in "Dollar's Fall is Felt around the globe"). We American citizens are all "us"! I have noticed several times that you seem to espouse such erroneous philosophy. The "us and you" philosophy existed in Nazi Germany, and then in the Communist Poland. I remember those days well. Each time I criticized Communism, it was an immediate "we don't like you"! As a matter of fact, I was expelled from the Pauline Order for criticizing Communism, and had to leave Poland in a hurry in 1981. This is what makes me so sensitive to the "us and you" attitude!
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Post by rdywenur on Mar 14, 2008 7:50:54 GMT -7
Nathanael...I was not criticizing you in my reply. The topic is Positive psychology so this was my answer to how to think positive. It was not directed to you specifically. As to reply #28. yes there I did speak to you directly but I don't feel I was critizing you or your view. Just pointed out that the people that should hear your view will most likely miss it in here. I don't think you should be so sensitive because you must take into fact that it is hard to write in a forum without each person interpreting things as they see it. Not always the way it is meant. One can read something several times and each time come up with a different interpretation or understanding. Like in the above post in the last sentenence as I reread it I can see where it might be thought I was talking to you but that was not the case. the "you" was anybody...as in me, myself and I.
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Post by Atlantis5 on Mar 14, 2008 9:21:40 GMT -7
Jaga
Unfortunately, I was unable to use the audio portion, but picked up enough of the content from the heading.
I will only give my reply as general, for in this area, what ever we reply in content, may be mis-read.
As noted, Psychology is a very varied set of tools. A tool for each application for the technician to use. If wrongly applied, it will have dangerous destructive effects, perhaps intentional or un-intentional.
For here with the Science of Happiness. It is a wonderful tool to promote not just the daily out look, but also that of the intrinsic health of an individual.
As an example: We observe out side, and it is grey cloudy skies, the streets are dark with melted snow, the wind has a cold penetrating bite that seeps through our heavy coat with a cause to chill our skin. There is a cold mist of half snow that hits our cheeks and makes our nose run.
Positive Psychology: Oh what a wonderful day today, I feel so good, I think I will take a nice refreshing walk for as the snow has melted.
Oh the air smells so fresh and clean, it feels so good upon my face and the smell of clean nice cold rain. I think today I will just walk for a time and see what today will bring to me as an adventure.
Above is only an example of two phases of applied Psychology for personal use in a layman sense, not as clinical applied psychology.
Charles
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Post by nathanael on Mar 14, 2008 9:58:37 GMT -7
This is wearing me down, Rdywenur. You just confirmed why I have reasons to be concerned! You have said that "people will most likely miss what I say," anyway! Give more credit to the people! Do not speak for others on the forum! It is not up to you to decide what others will do or not do! I write in as clear language as I can, to insure that people don't miss what I say! It is precisely this your attitude what irritates me! I am not judging you, and you are not supposed to judge me! Let the readers decide who is right and who is wrong! As for the "us and you" attitude, leave this also to the people! They know what I mean! The "us and you" attitude has been with us since Abraham, when the Israelites began to use it against the Gentiles! It was used by the Nazis and by the Communists. In the U.S., the "us and you" attitude is a hallmark of the liberal-feminist establishment! It has grown to be part of the U.S. culture, just like apple pie! When you are on a U.S. campus university (I have been to a few), and if you do not share the liberal-feminist views, you are immediately treated of "us, and you," marked, and doomed in your career! The "us" being the liberal-feminists, and "you" being the individual doomed! The bottom line is: I am not on this forum to argue with you, nor anyone. I try to write the truth the best I see it. I give it my best shot. This is what the Polish Culture forum should be for, not arguing!
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Post by george on Mar 14, 2008 17:24:00 GMT -7
Rydwenur....You can't win, you Nazi, Communist, liberal feminest person you. You can't argue with a religous fanatic.
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Post by jimpres on Mar 14, 2008 18:12:40 GMT -7
George,
You are now the official referee.
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Post by freetobe on Mar 14, 2008 18:29:00 GMT -7
RDY, I tried and lost on this. Fanaticism has no boundaries. There can be no meaningful discourse as my mind is made up, so don't confuse me with the facts. You've been reasonable and kind, so what more can you do? FURGETTABOUTIT, life goes on. Case closed.
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Post by nathanael on Mar 14, 2008 20:43:52 GMT -7
If people want me on the forum, they will have to respect me as I respect them. This is the golden rule of all meaningful and civilized discourse! By the way, I thought that I made it clear that I and George no longer talk! I hope I do not have to remind it again since this also is a part of human rights that the dialogists have: to decide with whom they talk!
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