Dutch Hooligans damange Rome

[pieter]

The Italians are furious and they are entitled too! Some brainless, stupid, criminal violent Hooligans brought great damage to beautiful Rome.
The Romans want revenge, recontribution and tough measures against the perpatrotors.

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This are earlier scenes about How Feijenoord Hooligans attack their own teams headquarters when they didn't aggreed with the management:







Glass bottles, rocks, sticks, Crowd control barriers, bricks and metal bars, chair and Bar stoolsn can hurt if they hit you. I am sorry for Italian civilians, police officers and others who were hurt or wounded by these drunken and drugged idiots.
In the Netherlands these people complain about tough police actions, control, the legal system that monitors and stadium prohibitions of notorious Hooligans. The Dutch police has decades of experience with these groups and individuals, and they
cooperate on an European level with the German, British, Belgian, Polish, Danish, French and other Police forces who have to deal with Hooligan violence.

Due to decades of squater riots (autonomen in German) and Hooligan clashes between various Dutch clubs and between Dutch and foreign Hooligans on Duthc soil we are used to damaged city and town centers, and the risk of these people coming by train,
bus, cars, vans and other means of transportation. Ofcourse the Hooligans of AS Roma will want their revenge. Rotterdam, be aware of the Italians coming.

Dutch tourists have to watch their cars and shouldn't speak Dutch to loudly. The anger is large overthere.

[pieter]

Hooliganism is an European, South-American and partly a North-African problem today. Look at the clashes between the police and Egyptian Hooligans in Cairo and Alexandria.

[pieter]

The Italian police knows how to deal with these vandals!

[karl]

Pieter

Thank for this currant issue that is with the Italians. If not for enough trouble with such idiots, there has been such a threat to the land of the Cross being The Vatican by IS with such similar violence. Their police {Polozia} and Special Security Task Force has been placed on alert close by such sensitive areas as the US Embassy on the Via Veneto.

Now, to deal with as you have presented, violence by the hands of such huligans as these idiots. The Italian police are indeed active and very efficient in dealing with force against force as should be. For the protection of the public and property is a requirement of their responsibility.

Karl

[pieter]

The danger Karl of these Hooligans is not only their violence, but radical and extremist elements which are connected with or have roots in the far right. With the ongoing terror and threats of the islamists in Europe, it may provoke or creat a terrorist reaction from the extreme right. far right terrorists want to compete with the far left and islamist extremists. They are inspired and in the same time hate islamists and leftist extremists. Thy create their own organisations and underground cells.

Hooligans are used to violence, aggression, fanatism, dammage, terror and death. There will be fanatical Ultra's amongst them who with enough drugs, alcohol or some crazy fringe idiotic ideology want to sacrifice themselves for the fascist or neo-nazi cause in a new form. Maybe most of these Feijenoord Hooligans aren't far right extremists, but I do know that amongst the British, German, Italian, Russian and Polish hooligans there are far right nuts.

[pieter]

Right-wing terrorism



Right-wing terrorism is terrorism motivated by a variety of far right ideologies and beliefs, including anti-communism, neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, racism, xenophobia and opposition to immigration. This type of terrorism has been sporadic, with little or no international cooperation. The terrorist acts are generally poorly coordinated, and few identifiable organizations have been involved. Modern right-wing terrorism first appeared in western Europe in the 1980s and in eastern Europe following the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Right-wing terrorists aim to overthrow governments and replace them with nationalist or fascist-oriented governments. The core of this movement includes neo-fascist skinheads, far right hooligans, youth sympathisers and intellectual guides who believe that the state must rid itself of foreign elements in order to protect rightful citizens. However, they usually lack a rigid ideology.


The Norwegian far right terrorist Anders Behring Breivik (born 13 February 1979) who killed eight people by setting off a van bomb amid government buildings in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants of a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya On 22 July 2011.

France


A photo taken on May 8, 2011 shows members of "Jeunesses Nationalistes Révolutionnaires" (JNR) movement taking part in a French far-right groups rally to denounce "globalization," around the Madeleine church in Paris.

Neo-Nazis of the French and European Nationalist Party were responsible for a pair of anti-Muslim terror bombings in 1988. Sonacotra hostels in Cagnes-sur-Mer and Cannes were bombed, killing Romanian immigrant George Iordachescu and injuring 16 people, mostly Tunisians.

In an attempt to frame Jewish extremists for the Cagnes-sur-Mer bombing, the terrorists left leaflets bearing Stars of David and the name "Masada" at the scene of the crime, with the message "To destroy Israel, Islam has chosen the sword. For this choice, Islam will perish."


The far-right National Front secured the votes of 25 percent of the French electorate

Germany

In 1980, a right-wing terrorist attack in Munich, Germany killed the attacker and 14 other people, injuring 215. Fears of an ongoing campaign of major right-wing terrorist attacks did not materialize.

In addition to several bank robberies, the German National Socialist Underground was responsible for the Bosphorus serial murders (2000-2006), the 2004 Cologne bombing and the murder of policewoman Michéle Kiesewetter in 2007. In November 2011, two members of the National Socialist Underground committed suicide after a bank robbery and a third member was arrested some days later.


National Socialist Underground members Beate Zschäpe, Uwe Böhnhardt and Uwe Mundlos.


German police officer Michéle Kiesewetter was murdered by the German National Socialist Underground

More info about the National Socialist Underground: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Underground

Ireland


Members of the far right Ulster Defence Association march in Northern-Ireland

In the Republic of Ireland and in Northern Ireland (UK), far-right Ulster loyalists are known to have formed armed militias like the Ulster Defence Association, Real Ulster Freedom Fighters and Red Hand Defenders, that in some cases had been classified as terrorist groups by the UK, US, and Ireland, for their extremists and violent actions toward civilians and public servants, both in Ireland and the UK.


Mural of the Real Ulster Freedom Fighters in Northern-Ireland in a Protestant Unionist neighbourhood

Italy

In the August 1980 Bologna bombing, a group of right-wing terrorists exploded a bomb at a railroad station in Bologna, Italy, killing 84 people and injuring more than 180. According to the Italian police, the perpetrators were Valerio Fioravanti and Francesca Mambro, two members of the neo-fascist organization Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari. Both of the accused denied any connection with the attacks.


The August 1980 Bologna bombing

In December 2011, far right CasaPound activists took part in targeted shooting of Senegalese traders in Florence, killing two and injuring three.


Members of the Italian far right CasaPound ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CasaPound )

Norway


Norwegian Neo-nazi Kristian "Varg" Vikernes greeted supporters outside the court after Thursday's hearing in Paris, France, 2013 ( www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24556167 )

On July 22, 2011, Norwegian right-wing extremist with Nazi and fascist sympathies, Anders Behring Breivik, carried out the 2011 Norway attacks, the largest mass killing of people in Norway by a single person during peacetime, excluding use of bombs. First he bombed several government buildings in Oslo, killing eight people and injuring more than 30. After the bombings, he went to Utøya island in a fake police uniform and began firing on people attending a political youth camp for the Worker's Youth League (AUF), a left-wing political party, killing 68 and injuring more than 60.


Norwegian police enters Utøya island after Breivik killed 68 young Norwegian Social-democrats of the the Worker's Youth League.

United Kingdom


The British Neo-Nazi David Copeland

In April 1999, David Copeland, a neo-Nazi, planted a series of nail bombs over 13 days, causing explosions in Brixton, Brick Lane (in east London), and Soho (in central London). His attacks, which were aimed at London's black, Bangladeshi and gay communities, resulted in three people being killed and more than 100 being injured. Copeland was a former member of two far right political groups, the British National Party (BNP) and the National Socialist Movement. Copeland told police, "My aim was political. It was to cause a racial war in this country. There'd be a backlash from the ethnic minorities, then all the white people will go out and vote BNP."


The Admiral Duncan bombing was the third of three nail bomb attacks carried out by David Copeland who wanted to stir up fear and hatred so that the British National Party would be elected. Luckily his plan failed but not before he had planted three bombs over the course of three weeks targeting the Black communities of Brixton (17th April), the Asian communities of Brick Lane (24th April) and the Gay communities of Soho (30th April).

In July 2007, Robert Cottage, a former BNP member, was convicted for possessing explosive chemicals in his home – described by police at the time of his arrest as the largest amount of chemical explosive of its type ever found in this country. In June 2008, Martyn Gilleard, a British Nazi sympathizer, was jailed after police found nail bombs, bullets, swords, axes and knives in his flat. Also in 2008, Nathan Worrell was found guilty of possession of material for terrorist purposes and racially aggravated harassment. He was described by anti-terror police as a "dangerous individual". The court heard that police found books and manuals containing "recipes" to make bombs and detonators using household items, such as weedkiller, at Worrell's flat. In July 2009, Neil Lewington was planning on waging a terror campaign using weapons made from tennis balls and weedkiller against those he classified as "non British".


British Neo-nazi Nathan Worrell

In 2012, the British Home Affairs Committee warned of the threat of far right terrorism in the UK, claiming it had heard "persuasive evidence" about the potential danger and cited the growth of similar threats across Europe.

Members of Combat 18 (C18), a neo-Nazi organisation based on the concept of "leaderless resistance", have been suspected in numerous deaths of immigrants, non-whites, and other C18 members. Between 1998 and 2000, dozens of Combat 18 members in the UK were arrested on various charges during dawn raids by the police. A group calling itself the Racial Volunteer Force split from C18 in 2002, although it has retained close links to its parent organization. Some journalists believed that the White Wolves are a C18 splinter group, alleging that the group had been set up by Del O'Connor, the former second-in-command of C18 and member of Skrewdriver Security. Racist attacks on immigrants continue from members of C18. Weapons, ammunition and explosives have been seized by police in the UK and almost every country in which C18 is active.

[karl]

Pieter

It is interesting of this in the manner of content you have very kindly presented. It is very true of such needless damage these idiots committee for no variable reason. With this in the manner of conventual processes of resolving is only temporary. These people live double lives, one life is working/shopping/paying taxes and all that is of living in a respectable life for the most part.

Then, comes the opportunity with others as a group, to commit what they do hiding amongst the others as a group. The courts do not see this, what they see is a small portion of only that which these people as individuals have committed as a crime against the law books, and then only prosecute that portion that has been removed in the process of plea barging. Then it starts over again upon another opportunity presented by the heat of the moment.

The police know this and do their work very well. What comes out though, is each arrest starts the process of identification/arrest history and placed into the electronic file for future reference.

It is this electronic file that can be accessed by most any international agency with the correct codes for access. Then if accessed, this in turn is as a directional beaken as to who has accessed which file and the code used. This then may be used for access to the user of original enquire computer for reason of their enquire.

Karl

[pieter]

Karl,

What I find dangerous about these groups is that they are extremely violent, have brainwashed members, and that they are different than the traditional old school nazi's and fasists from Germany, Austria, Italy and Spain in the time of Hitler, Himler, Goebbels, Göring, Mussolini and general Franco.

These are far right extremists who admire and learn from far left and islamist terrorists and terrorism too. They hate democracy, our constitutions, legal systems, law, police, politicians, and reject liberalism, conservatism, christian-democracy, social-democracy, freedom, tolerance, freedom of speech and opinion. They are the SA (Sturm Abteilung) and SS (Schutzstaffeln) of today.

They are ready to kill everyone who doesn't agree with them and is different. People who are black or of color, asians, Muslims, jews, hindu's and people who aren't European enough in their view, like leftists, moderate center left people, center right politicians and employers, capitalists (enterpreneurs), Gays and Lesbians, police officers and other public officials. They hate 'the system'as they call it. They talk about System Knechten (System Helpers) when they speak about police officers, prosecutors, social workers, teachers and public servants.

The National Socialist Underground proved this, and Anders Behring Breivik too, who attacked both the Norwegian state institutions as a Norwegian leftwing party.

These far right extremists people find inspiration in Adolf Hitler, Ernst Röhm, leader of the SA (killed in the Knight of the Long knives in 1934), Al Qaida/Bin laden, Friedrich Engels, Lenin, Stalin, the German communist leader Ernst Thälmann, North-Korea (Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il), the Red Army Fraction (Rote Armee Fraction or Bader Meinhof Gruppe), elements of the DDR (which they view as German socialism), Fidel Castro of Cuba, Che Guevara, next to their Waffen SS, Wehrmacht, Gestapo and NSDAP party inspiration.

They will even cooperate with Al Qaida if they can target American, British, European democracies and Jewish, christian and moderate Muslim targets in Europe. They are dangerously underestimated and maybe only monitored by intelligence agencies and some police forces. It is dangerous for journalists or ordinary citizens to follow them, criticize them or hold counter demonstrations. You can be harassed, stalked, receive threatening e-mails or post, beaten up, stabed, shot down, *beheaded, tortured, run over by a car, burned alive, hanged, drowned or made your life impossible by these people. They are ideological, political, military drilled and filled with the far right neo-nazi and rightwing populist life philosophy of the pure race, Europe of the whites, and thus with racism, anti-semitism, islamophobia, xenophobia, discrimination as a norm and secret cells like the Islamist terror groups.

We don't know them, but the European authorities, Interpol and the intelligence agencies do. Western states will do everything to monitor them, infiltrate them, and dismantle them and to de-radcialize some of their members in rehabilitation programs. Germany is the only country I know with a special anti-neo nazi police unit. Again we shouldn't underestimate these people. The faster and the larger the problem of islamists and jihdists in Europe will grow (the young Muslim migrants that go to Syria and Iraq and who return), the faster the far right movement and chance of right extreme terrorism will follow. Remember that the former RAF terrorist Horst Mahler became an NPD member and an ideologue of the German far right.

Cheers,
Pieter

P.S.- In Russia dsigusting video's appeared from people of the Caucacus region who were caught by Russian neo-nazi's and killed in ISIS fashion. They were beheaded. In other video's Russian neo-nazi's attack non Russians and beat them up on Russian streets. Russian rightwing extremists also attackd blacks and Indian people in Russia, and also tried to kill a colored child. Thank god she was saved. They won't spare anybody. There is little difference between them and Al Qaida or ISIS. Only their ideology and vision is different. Neo-nazi's are atheist extremists. They hate christianity, judaism and islam. They only see an allie in Islam, because they have a shared hatred for the USA, the European democracies, Judaism, jews and Israel.

I want to make the destinction between the justified criticism and just aversion to the treatment of Palestinians, and Israel's policies in Gaza and the West-Bank and the targeting in Europe, the USA, Southern-America and other parts of the world of jews, because they are jews culturally, ethnically or in faith (Judaism). There is a difference between anti-semitism and anti-zionism, but sometimes anti-zionism and anti-semitism go hand in had. Like in the cases of the murdered jews in France, Belgium and Denmark.

I don't want to make this topic and issue of Judaism or anti-semitism. I want to point at the threat Rightwing extremist terrorism poses to the European democracies. Islamic terrorism can be beneficial for fascist far right movements, parties and terror groups. Because they thrive on fear, anger/rage, hatred, revenge feelings, lust for war, ethnic conflicts and escalation of tensions and conflicts between ethnic and cultural groups in Europe. And they are everywhere in Europe, in the North, in the South, in the West and in the Center.

[pieter]

I consider Horst Mahler to be a typical modern late 20th century Neo-nazi. A Neo-Nazi with Marxist-Leninist and New Left (sixties and seventies leftwing movement in Germany) roots. He hasn't denounced his marxist-leninist Red Army Fraction past, and he uses his ideological knowledge and experience, guerrilla experience, and experience with two political movements (the RAF and the NPD) in his present activities. German neo-nazi's today without problems use German nazi's and communists as examples (I mentioned them in a previous post)

Strasserism


Otto Johann Maximilian Strasser (10 September 1897 – 27 August 1974)

Strasserism (German: Strasserismus or Straßerismus) is the strand of Nazism that called for, and the neo-Nazism that currently calls for, a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of National Socialism, hostile to Jews from an anti-capitalist basis, to achieve a national rebirth. It derives its name from Gregor and Otto Strasser, the two Nazi brothers initially associated with this position. Opposed on strategic views to Adolf Hitler, Otto Strasser was expelled from the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in 1930, while Gregor Strasser was killed during the 1934 Night of the Long Knives.


Gregor Strasser on the left side

Ideology

The name Strasserism came to be applied to this form of Nazism that developed around the brothers. Although they had been involved in the creation of the National Socialist Program of 1920, both called on the party to commit to 'breaking the shackles of finance capital'. This opposition to "Jewish finance capitalism", which they contrasted to "productive capitalism," was shared by Adolf Hitler himself, who borrowed it from Gottfried Feder.

This populist and antisemitic form of anti-capitalism was further developed in 1925 when Otto Strasser published the Nationalsozialistische Briefe, which discussed notions of class conflict, wealth redistribution and a possible alliance with the Soviet Union. His 1930 follow-up Ministersessel oder Revolution ('Cabinet Seat or Revolution') went further by attacking Hitler's betrayal of the socialist aspect of Nazism, as well as criticizing the notion of Führerprinzip. Whilst Gregor Strasser echoed many of the calls of his brother, his influence on the ideology is less, due to his remaining in the Nazi Party longer and to his early death. Otto, meanwhile, continued to expand his argument, calling for the break-up of large estates and the development of something akin to a guild system and the related establishment of a Reich cooperative chamber to take a leading role in economic planning.

Strasserism, therefore, became a distinct strand of Nazism that, whilst holding on to previous Nazi ideals such as palingenetic ultranationalism and anti-Semitism, added a strong critique of capitalism and framed this in the demand for a more "socialist-based" approach to economics.

It is disputed, however, whether Strasserism effectively represented a distinct form of Nazism. According to historian Ian Kershaw, "the leaders of the SA [which included Gregor Strasser] did not have another vision of the future of Germany or another politic to propose." But they advocated the radicalization of the Nazi regime, and the toppling of the German elites, calling Hitler's rise to power a "half-revolution," which needed to be completed.

Influence

During the 1970s the ideas of Strasserism began to be referred to more strongly in European far-right groups as younger members with no concrete ties to Hitler and a stronger sense of anti-capitalism came to the fore.

Strasserism in Germany


An NPD demonstration in Hanover. The National Democratic Party has Strasserist roots.

Strasserite thought in Germany began to emerge as a tendency within the National Democratic Party (NPD) during the late 1960s. These Strasserites played a leading role in securing the removal of Adolf von Thadden from the leadership and following his departure the party became stronger in condemning Hitler for what it saw as his move away from socialism in order to court business and army leaders.

Although initially adopted by the NPD, Strasserism soon became associated with more peripheral extremist figures, notably Michael Kühnen who produced a 1982 pamphlet Farewell to Hitler, which included a strong endorsement of the idea. The People's Socialist Movement of Germany/Labour Party, a minor extremist movement that was outlawed in 1982 adopted the policy, while its successor movement, the Nationalist Front, did likewise, with its ten point programme calling for an 'anti-materialist cultural revolution' and an 'anti-capitalist social revolution' to underline its support for the idea. The Free German Workers' Party also moved towards these ideas under the leadership of Friedhelm Busse in the late 1980s.


A FAP meeting during the ninetees in Germany