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Post by valpomike on Jan 17, 2008 9:59:40 GMT -7
Jaga,
Many groceries carry it, but only where it sells, try a large place in a larger city. If they don't have it, ask for it.
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Post by livia on Jan 17, 2008 11:46:57 GMT -7
I read more about celery and celeriac today. Here are the most important findings. Celery (Apium graveolens) is believed to be the same plant as selinon, mentioned in Homer's Odyssey about 850 B.C. Our word "celery" comes from the French celeri, which is derived from the ancient Greek word. The old Roman names, as well as those in many modern languages, are derived from the same root word and sound remarkably similar. This indicates a rather recent wide distribution and use of celery. Polish word for celeriac is SELER , for the celery SELER NACIOWY  Supposedly, it takes more calories to eat and digest celery than there is in the celery. Celery contains vitamin C and several other active compounds that promote health, including phalides, which may help/ lower cholesterol, and coumarins, that may be useful in cancer prevention. Celery's potential for reducing high blood pressure has long been recognized by Chinese medicine practitioners, and Western science researchers have recently identified one reason why. The seeds of celery's wild ancestors, which originated around the Mediterranean, were widely used as a diuretic. Today, we understand how celery, which is rich in both potassium and sodium, the minerals most important for regulating fluid balance, stimulates urine production, thus helping to rid the body of excess fluid. Celery contains compounds called coumarins that help prevent free radicals from damaging cells, thus decreasing the mutations that increase the potential for cells to become cancerous. Coumarins also enhance the activity of certain white blood cells,immune defenders that target and eliminate potentially harmful cells, including cancer cells. In addition, compounds in celery called acetylenics have been shown to stop the growth of tumor cells. Celery stalks, celery seed and celeriac (celery root) are each grown commercially from different varieties of the plant. CELERY ALERGYSevere allergic reactions to celery were observed after ingestion of raw celery but can also occur after intake of foods containing technologically processed or heated celery roots. This is particularly important since dried powder from celery roots is used as a cheap spicing ingredient in many processed foods such as spice mixtures, soups, broths and salad dressings. The allergenicity of celery spice has been shown for patients with known allergy to raw celery in our recent food challenge studies. Thus, commercially used celery powder is not safe for patients who are allergic to raw celery. Furthermore, the allergenic potential of celery was sustained for some patients even after extensive thermal treatment (>60min, at a temperature of 100°C), suggesting a high heat resistance of some of the celery allergens. Celery and products thereof are listed in annex IIIa of the EU directive on labelling of foods. Additional reading ;D ;D ;D ;D  Description HARE TODAY, GONE TOMORROW Bunnicula is missing! Chester is convinced all the world's vegetables are in danger of being drained of their life juices and turned into zombies. Soon he has Harold and Howie running around sticking toothpicks through hearts of lettuce and any other veggie in sight. Of course, Chester has been known to be wrong before...but you can never be too careful when there's a vampire bunny at large! Product Details Aladdin, October 2006 Trade Paperback, 144 pages ISBN-10: 1-4169-2814-6 ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-2814-0 Ages: 8 - 12 Grades: 3 - 7 |
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Post by justjohn on Jan 17, 2008 12:26:46 GMT -7
I read more about celery and celeriac today. Here are the most important findings. Celery (Apium graveolens) is believed to be the same plant as selinon, mentioned in Homer's Odyssey about 850 B.C. Our word "celery" comes from the French celeri, which is derived from the ancient Greek word. The old Roman names, as well as those in many modern languages, are derived from the same root word and sound remarkably similar. This indicates a rather recent wide distribution and use of celery. Polish word for celeriac is SELER , for the celery SELER NACIOWY Supposedly, it takes more calories to eat and digest celery than there is in the celery. Celery contains vitamin C and several other active compounds that promote health, including phalides, which may help/ lower cholesterol, and coumarins, that may be useful in cancer prevention. Celery's potential for reducing high blood pressure has long been recognized by Chinese medicine practitioners, and Western science researchers have recently identified one reason why. The seeds of celery's wild ancestors, which originated around the Mediterranean, were widely used as a diuretic. Today, we understand how celery, which is rich in both potassium and sodium, the minerals most important for regulating fluid balance, stimulates urine production, thus helping to rid the body of excess fluid. Celery contains compounds called coumarins that help prevent free radicals from damaging cells, thus decreasing the mutations that increase the potential for cells to become cancerous. Coumarins also enhance the activity of certain white blood cells,immune defenders that target and eliminate potentially harmful cells, including cancer cells. In addition, compounds in celery called acetylenics have been shown to stop the growth of tumor cells. Celery stalks, celery seed and celeriac (celery root) are each grown commercially from different varieties of the plant. CELERY ALERGYSevere allergic reactions to celery were observed after ingestion of raw celery but can also occur after intake of foods containing technologically processed or heated celery roots. This is particularly important since dried powder from celery roots is used as a cheap spicing ingredient in many processed foods such as spice mixtures, soups, broths and salad dressings. The allergenicity of celery spice has been shown for patients with known allergy to raw celery in our recent food challenge studies. Thus, commercially used celery powder is not safe for patients who are allergic to raw celery. Furthermore, the allergenic potential of celery was sustained for some patients even after extensive thermal treatment (>60min, at a temperature of 100°C), suggesting a high heat resistance of some of the celery allergens. Celery and products thereof are listed in annex IIIa of the EU directive on labelling of foods. Additional reading ;D ;D ;D ;D Description HARE TODAY, GONE TOMORROW Bunnicula is missing! Chester is convinced all the world's vegetables are in danger of being drained of their life juices and turned into zombies. Soon he has Harold and Howie running around sticking toothpicks through hearts of lettuce and any other veggie in sight. Of course, Chester has been known to be wrong before...but you can never be too careful when there's a vampire bunny at large! Product Details Aladdin, October 2006 Trade Paperback, 144 pages ISBN-10: 1-4169-2814-6 ISBN-13: 978-1-4169-2814-0 Ages: 8 - 12 Grades: 3 - 7 Livia, I have been enlightened. Thank you very much. And I always thought it was the beer I was drinking while I was cooking. I guess not. Cook celeriac/celery and stay close to the john. |
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Post by valpomike on Jan 17, 2008 13:43:17 GMT -7
Livia,
Thank you. Your report is great.
Michael Dabrowski
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Post by joyce on Jan 17, 2008 18:36:30 GMT -7
While ya'll were speaking of celery root and celery, I thought about
fennel. We have eaten alot of fennel, mostly as a digestive aid after a dinner.
Fennel has an anise taste-tastes like licorice.
I have seen very few recipes for fennel-but I know it can be boiled or cooked
on a grill. We usually eat the stalks raw. I have tried to grow it from seed
with out much success. It is a pretty plant. The fronds remind me of aspargus.
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Post by livia on Jan 18, 2008 10:42:50 GMT -7
In Poland fennel is either imported or grown in the glass-houses. I don't remember eating it, but now I will try, thank you! It is used for infants as a medicine for it's mild spasmolitic action.
In Polish kitchen, the other type of this kind of plant is used. The name is dill. It is eaten very often with ..... almost everything. It is used to make cucumber pickles too.
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Post by joyce on Jan 20, 2008 7:55:59 GMT -7
In Poland fennel is either imported or grown in the glass-houses. I don't remember eating it, but now I will try, thank you! It is used for infants as a medicine for it's mild spasmolitic action. In Polish kitchen, the other type of this kind of plant is used. The name is dill. It is eaten very often with ..... almost everything. It is used to make cucumber pickles too. The herb dill we use in the making of chicken soup. I found if I used too much of the dried dill, it is very strong. When you speak of eating dill almost every day-what foods does one consume with it? |
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Post by livia on Jan 20, 2008 8:49:29 GMT -7
Fresh dill is added to almost all kind of soups, to steam boiled vegetables as well as vegetable salads. It is also added to meat balls, to Polish 'hamburgers which are named kotlet mielony. The boiled potatoes are often served with dill on them. Also the fish are served with dill, the herring in dill &sour cream marinade too. It is eaten with the eggs and is added to many sauces. Carp in apic has dill inside as well. And there's a dill sauce. Which is great and goes well with cold meats, boiled eggs and most of all the fish. Very easy and quick to make. The only important point it has to be made at least several hours before served. I mix chopped dill with sour cream and add lemon juice, salt, pepper and very little of a 'smooth' mustard. If I have pickled capers I add a little too. It all goes into fridge to give the different tastes a chance to get mixed.
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Post by rdywenur on Jan 20, 2008 8:52:52 GMT -7
Most of my Italian friends usually have this in their relish trays and so I have basically only known the Italians to eat fennel. I think osmeone told me once it was good for cleaning the palate. Here is a link for additional notes on Fennel. www.tonytantillo.com/vegetables/fennel.html |
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Post by joyce on Jan 21, 2008 3:21:55 GMT -7
Fresh dill is added to almost all kind of soups, to steam boiled vegetables as well as vegetable salads. It is also added to meat balls, to Polish 'hamburgers which are named kotlet mielony. The boiled potatoes are often served with dill on them. Also the fish are served with dill, the herring in dill &sour cream marinade too. It is eaten with the eggs and is added to many sauces. Carp in apic has dill inside as well. And there's a dill sauce. Which is great and goes well with cold meats, boiled eggs and most of all the fish. Very easy and quick to make. The only important point it has to be made at least several hours before served. I mix chopped dill with sour cream and add lemon juice, salt, pepper and very little of a 'smooth' mustard. If I have pickled capers I add a little too. It all goes into fridge to give the different tastes a chance to get mixed. Carp??? Is that a staple fish? Carp in Texas is considered a garbage fish-meaning not many people would eat the carp. There are some black folks who eat carp-but most people who catch the carp toss them back into the lake or pond. I have caught a few carp in my time; they are a strong fighting fish-a real challenge to catch them on a cane pole. |
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Post by Pawian on Jan 21, 2008 3:31:57 GMT -7
Carp??? Is that a staple fish? Carp in Texas is considered a garbage fish-meaning not many people would eat the carp. There are some black folks who eat carp-but most people who catch the carp toss them back into the lake or pond. I have caught a few carp in my time; they are a strong fighting fish-a real challenge to catch them on a cane pole. i don`t think we are talking about the same fish. Original carp lives in Europe and Asia only. Even if it got to the USA and is caught accidentally by your anglers, you think of the wild carp. What we have here in Poland and all central Europe is the royal carp, the species which have been undergoing selection from 13th century, when monks in monasteries started keeping this fish for food. Later kings accepted it on their tables, hence the name. See the difference: Wild carp  Royal carp  |
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Post by livia on Jan 21, 2008 3:35:31 GMT -7
Carp??? Is that a staple fish? Carp in Texas is considered a garbage fish-meaning not many people would eat the carp. There are some black folks who eat carp-but most people who catch the carp toss them back into the lake or pond. I have caught a few carp in my time; they are a strong fighting fish-a real challenge to catch them on a cane pole. Yes, carp in aspic has dill inside . I'm not sure what 'staple fish' means. But at least I understand 'garbage fish' as the same used to be in Great Britain. That is until the Poles went there ;D ;D ;D Carp in Poland is very popular, it is grown in special ponds. Sometimes it is called 'the fish of the kings' as in the Meadieval Ages most ponds with carp belonged to the monarch. I am not a great fish eater (but I like zander and... herring) but carp is considered very tasty in Poland. BTW. it is interesting how the food conisered 'garbage' in some cultures gets extremely popular in these culture later on. As was with sushi or with pizza. |
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Post by justjohn on Jan 21, 2008 5:15:36 GMT -7
Carp??? Is that a staple fish? Carp in Texas is considered a garbage fish-meaning not many people would eat the carp. There are some black folks who eat carp-but most people who catch the carp toss them back into the lake or pond. I have caught a few carp in my time; they are a strong fighting fish-a real challenge to catch them on a cane pole. Yes, carp in aspic has dill inside . I'm not sure what 'staple fish' means. But at least I understand 'garbage fish' as the same used to be in Great Britain. That is until the Poles went there ;D ;D ;D Carp in Poland is very popular, it is grown in special ponds. Sometimes it is called 'the fish of the kings' as in the Meadieval Ages most ponds with carp belonged to the monarch. I am not a great fish eater (but I like zander and... herring) but carp is considered very tasty in Poland. BTW. it is interesting how the food conisered 'garbage' in some cultures gets extremely popular in these culture later on. As was with sushi or with pizza. Carp is considered a trash fish up here in the Northeast Kingdom. I remember catching them in the rivers as a kid and always throwing them back. Same quality of catch as a sucker fish.  |
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Post by Pawian on Jan 21, 2008 5:33:01 GMT -7
The list of native fish of North America doesn`t include carp: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fish_of_North_America
They were subsequently introduced into North America in 1877, as a government program to try to popularize them as a food source for a growing immigrant nation. Fish were released in ponds in Druid Hill Park in Baltimore, Maryland; later, surplus populations were released in Washington D.C. This was primarily the project of Rudolf Hessel, a fish culturist in the employ of the United States government. Carp were fairly widely introduced throughout the central eastern States, and introduced carp readily adapted to their new environment, spreading rapidly throughout any drainage area in which they were released. Carp have since become naturalized in almost every water in which they were introduced. However, carp never attained in the U.S. the great popularity they have in Europe. |
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Post by joyce on Jan 21, 2008 14:11:01 GMT -7
Yes, carp in aspic has dill inside . I'm not sure what 'staple fish' means. But at least I understand 'garbage fish' as the same used to be in Great Britain. That is until the Poles went there ;D ;D ;D Carp in Poland is very popular, it is grown in special ponds. Sometimes it is called 'the fish of the kings' as in the Meadieval Ages most ponds with carp belonged to the monarch. I am not a great fish eater (but I like zander and... herring) but carp is considered very tasty in Poland. BTW. it is interesting how the food conisered 'garbage' in some cultures gets extremely popular in these culture later on. As was with sushi or with pizza. Carp is considered a trash fish up here in the Northeast Kingdom. I remember catching them in the rivers as a kid and always throwing them back. Same quality of catch as a sucker fish. Okay...what we have in Texas is the wild carp. Other garbage fish ((to me, being raised on the US east coast and have done a fair amount of fishing)) are sea robins, squid & groupers. Some may consider eels and blow fish as garbage fish. But eels & squid can be used as bait and the Atlantic ocean blow fish are rather tasty. Another garbage fish for some Texans is the bottom feeding catfish. But yet there are Texans who go nuts for fried catfish & hush puppies. Guess it depends if you like fish. The "staple" fish I refer to is fish that someone would eat. |
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