do you watch Olympic games in China?

[Jaga]

Hello guys,

do you watch the Olympic games? I think it is good we have it. Poles got their first bronze medal in ski jump. We really worried about our team this year since Kamil Stoch had an injury. Happily other skiers replaced him - the first bronze medal for Dawid Kubacki.

here is more:

www.thefirstnews.com/article/poland-takes-ski-jump-bronze-in-beijing-games-27731

[pieter]

Jaga,

From an ethical point of view I have little appetite to watch the games due to Tibet, China's ongoing military intimidation towards Taiwan and the terrible treatment of the Uyghurs in the so called Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in Northwest China. In the Netherlands there were also protests against the 1978 FIFA World Cup was the 11th edition of the FIFA World Cup, a quadrennial international football world championship tournament among the men's senior national teams in Argentina due to the terrible Videla regime there from 1976–1983. The junta launched the Dirty War, a campaign of state terrorism against opponents involving torture, extrajudicial murder and systematic forced disappearances, with most victims being civilians.

Today the Uyghur genocide is the characterization of the series of ongoing human rights abuses committed by the government of China against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang as genocide. Since 2014, the Chinese government under the direction of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) during the administration of CCP general secretary Xi Jinping has pursued policies that incarcerated more than an estimated one million Muslims (the majority of them Uyghurs) in internment camps without any legal process. This is the largest-scale detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II. Thousands of mosques have been destroyed or damaged, and hundreds of thousands of children have been forcibly separated from their parents and sent to boarding schools.

Government policies have included the arbitrary detention of Uyghurs in state-sponsored internment camps, forced labor, suppression of Uyghur religious practices, political indoctrination, severe ill-treatment, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion. Chinese government statistics reported that from 2015 to 2018, birth rates in the mostly Uyghur regions of Hotan and Kashgar fell by more than 60%. In the same period, the birth rate of the whole country decreased by 9.69%, from 12.07 to 10.9 per 1,000 people. Chinese authorities acknowledged that birth rates dropped by almost a third in 2018 in Xinjiang, but denied reports of forced sterilization and genocide. Birth rates in Xinjiang fell a further 24% in 2019 (compared to a nationwide decrease of 4.2%).

At first, these actions were described as the forced assimilation of Xinjiang, and an ethnocide or cultural genocide. As more details emerged, some governments, activists, independent NGOs, human rights experts, and academics termed it genocide, pointing to intentional acts by the Chinese government that they say run afoul of Article II of the Genocide Convention. The Chinese government, meanwhile, publicly denies that it has committed human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

I have little appetite to watch the Olympic games will these practices take place in the same time in China.

Cheers,
Pieter

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide

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Protest by Dutch comedians against the Dutch participation in the 1978 FIFA World Cup in Argentina

[Jaga]

Pieter,

yes, China is guilty of many human right abuses, also in Tibet.
I still think that the olympic games should be free of politics. I was quite upset when American media were talking about human right abuses in China during the opening. There should be a right time for it, not during openings to the Olympic Games. These sportsmen were training many years for their performances.

Many countries abuse minorities including Russia and Israel. Still Israel is the biggest friend of America, so why such a double standard?

[karl]

Jaga

I have only to watch bits and patches of it but not enough to keep up with it. My only excuse is time is against me with work.

I am happy your are watching it and maybe as time allows, perhaps to post maybe a few high lights for us unfortunants.

Karl

[pieter]

Feb 6, 2022 23:28:26 GMT -7 Jaga said:

Pieter,

yes, China is guilty of many human right abuses, also in Tibet.
I still think that the olympic games should be free of politics. I was quite upset when American media were talking about human right abuses in China during the opening. There should be a right time for it, not during openings to the Olympic Games. These sportsmen were training many years for their performances.

Many countries abuse minorities including Russia and Israel. Still Israel is the biggest friend of America, so why such a double standard?

Jaga,

Many agree with you. The commercial and public media attention over her for the Olympics is of course overwhelming. I agree with you that the Olympic Games should be free from politics, but unfortunately politics won’t leave the Olympics alone.

Many countries abuse minorities including Russia, Israel, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Still Israel is the biggest friend of America. It's a tight interplay of America's long-running Middle East strategy, US public opinion/electoral politics, and a pro-Israel lobbying campaign that is effective, but maybe not as effective as you've heard.

I don’t see a double standard. Palestine 🇵🇸 has received the last decades constant attention on radio, tv, newspapers, magazines, blogs in protest demo’s and by Palestine 🇵🇸 advocacy groups like
BDS, the Dutch Palestine Committee (NPK), the Trotskyist ‘Internationale Socialisten’, Another Jewish Sound (Een Ander Joods Geluid, EJAG, Dutch Palestinians and political parties like Denk (migrant party), SP (Socialist Party people), people from the leftist GreenLeft (GroenLinks), Amnesty International, Human Roght watch and others.

The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) is a Palestinian-led movement promoting boycotts, divestments, and economic sanctions against Israel. Its objective is to pressure Israel to meet what the BDS movement describes as Israel's obligations under international law,defined as withdrawal from the occupied territories, removal of the separation barrier in the West Bank, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and "respecting, protecting, and promoting the rights of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and properties".

I think through the years the Palestinian cause and Palestina struggle has had much more attention than the Uyghur case. Many Westerners are simply not interested in inter-Chinese matters in particular and Asian subjects in general.

Cheers,
Pieter