Polish, Czech and Slovenian PMs visit Kyiv

[pieter]

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Folks,

I am in-between the thought of thinking this is a suicidal mission and a tough diplomatic statement. A question I have for the Poles. On 10 April 2010, a Tupolev Tu-154 aircraft operating Polish Air Force Flight 101 crashed near the Russian city of Smolensk, killing all 96 people on board. Among the victims were the president of Poland, Lech Kaczyński, and his wife, Maria, the former president of Poland in exile, Ryszard Kaczorowski, the chief of the Polish General Staff and other senior Polish military officers, the president of the National Bank of Poland, Polish Government officials, 18 members of the Polish Parliament, senior members of the Polish clergy and relatives of victims of the Katyn massacre. The group was arriving from Warsaw to attend an event commemorating the 70th anniversary of the massacre, which took place not far from Smolensk.

Does Poland after nearly 12 years dare to take another risk. The train of the Polish prime minister can be hit by mortars, rockets, rocket-propelled grenades (RPG's), bombs, sniperfires, fires from Russian fighter jets or attack helicopters. Do the Poles, Czechs have replacement for their prime ministers, and the top advisors and parliamentarians (Chairman of Prawo i Sprawiedliwość Jarosław Kaczyński). Does Prawo i Sprawiedliwość has a replacement for their prime minister and chairman if they are killed?

I understand that this is a great boost for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Ukrainian prime minister Denys Shmyhal, the Ukrainian army and the Urainian people. But it is a great risk for Poland, the Czech republic and Slovenia. I hope that the Czech, Polish and Slovenian prime ministers will have a safe journey back. They travel through a country which is at war with it's larger neighbour. The Ukrainians can't guarantee the safety of their international guests, nor the Russian authorities and army. The organisation of the Russian army is a chaos. So accidents can happen and thus this journey of these 3 European prime ministers is extremely risky and dangerous. Not only the danger of Russian attacks exist, but also mistake friendly fire (Fire from the Ukrainian side) can bring these prime ministers at risk.

Cheers,
Pieter

[pieter]

[pieter]

[pieter]

Ukraine war: European leaders risk train ride to meet Zelensky


The Slovenian, Polish and Czech prime ministers, together with Poland's ruling party leader, took the long journey from Warsaw

Ukraine has praised the courage of three European leaders who made a long, hazardous journey by rail from Poland to Kyiv in a show of support as the city came under further Russian attack.

The prime ministers of Poland, Slovenia and the Czech Republic met Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday evening as a curfew began in Kyiv.

The trip was a Polish idea, after the EU warned of potential security risks.

The Czech prime minister said Ukraine was fighting for its freedom.

"We admire your brave fight," Petr Fiala wrote in a tweet after the meeting. "We know that you're also fighting for our lives. You're not alone, our countries stand by your side."

Poland's Mateusz Morawiecki said that Europe would never be the same if it lost Ukraine. Instead, he wrote, it would be a "defeated, humiliated and pathetic version of its former self".

Mr Morawiecki, Mr Fiala, and Slovenia's Janez Jansa are the first international leaders to visit President Volodymyr Zelensky since Russia unleashed war on its neighbour on 24 February.
Leaders of Poland, Czech Republic and Slovenia meet the Ukrainian president


The European leaders met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv

"Your visit is a powerful expression of support for Ukraine," the president is quoted as telling the group.

Ukraine's Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal wrote on Twitter that "devastating" sanctions against Russia had been discussed, including the "recognition of Russia as a sponsor of terrorism".

Explosions heard during meeting

As the talks took place, loud explosions could be heard across Kyiv from fighting on the western edge of the capital.

The European Union said the politicians were not carrying any particular mandate, but that leaders in Brussels were aware of the trip, as it was mentioned during an informal EU summit in Versailles, France, last week.

Poland's deputy foreign minister Marcin Przydacz admitted the trip was risky, but said it was "worth taking for the sake of values". He said they had told the Russians the visit was taking place.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky met the European leaders in Kyiv

The leaders decided to travel by train because flying by Polish military jet could have been viewed by Russia as dangerously provocative, BBC Europe editor Katya Adler reports. It was not immediately clear when their train would make the return trip to Warsaw.

Ukraine's president has repeatedly called on Nato to impose a no-fly zone over his country's airspace, but Nato has refused.

Mr Zelensky said Ukrainians now understood they could not join Nato. "We have heard for years that the doors were open, but we also heard that we could not join. It's a truth and it must be recognised. I am glad that our people are beginning to understand this and rely on themselves and our partners who help us."

At least five people were killed in Russia's bombardment of Kyiv on Tuesday, and Mayor Vitali Klitschko ordered a curfew to run from 20:00 (18:00 GMT) on Tuesday to 07:00 on Thursday. The city was facing a difficult and dangerous moment, he said: "This is why I ask all Kyivites to get prepared to stay at home for two days, or if the sirens go off, in the shelters."


The three prime ministers were joined by Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the leader of Poland's ruling Law and Justice party. Polish officials pointed out that his late twin brother and former president Lech Kaczynski had taken part in another risky trip to Georgia in 2008, during Russia's summer invasion.

All three leaders have been vocal supporters of Ukraine in recent weeks. Slovenia's prime minister said last week that the EU should send a strong message that Ukraine will eventually be granted membership.

Czech Foreign Minister Jan Lipavsky said the visit was a strong and important gesture to show solidarity with Ukraine. "Ukraine's security is European security; therefore we need to do everything possible to help them survive this sickening barbaric Russian attack," he told the BBC.