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Nov 19, 2005 16:24:32 GMT -7
Post by nancy on Nov 19, 2005 16:24:32 GMT -7
Garden Moma,
What is this about the arc swooping out from Russia that you mentioned in the food section (blood types came up).
I am A+, how does that relate to this arc?
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Nov 19, 2005 18:23:13 GMT -7
Post by jimpres on Nov 19, 2005 18:23:13 GMT -7
Sorry Nancy just AB+, ;-))) Just kidding....... Not sure about GM's arc either
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Nov 19, 2005 19:21:50 GMT -7
Post by nancy on Nov 19, 2005 19:21:50 GMT -7
I just had to see what I could find out from Google. I think this is all based on the DNA-based genealogy that is being done these days. I have already lost this source (apologies to the Goddess of the Internet): "According to Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA, which is analysing data for the project, the Y chromosome had a genetic profile, or haplotype, called R1a, which is believed to have originated in Northern India and Pakistan some 30,000 years ago. Over a long period of time, that family migrated across Eurasia in a great arc, landing in Europe some time after the last ice age. People with haplotype R1a are now found most commonly in Europe east of Germany, such as in Poland, where about 40 per cent of the population has R1a." From www.calabriadna.com/Grandfathers.htmlHaplogroup R1a. This group began as a brother haplogroup to R1b, but instead of coming to Europe at the same time, the R1a group remained in the Steppes of Eurasia, north of the Black Sea in the present-day Ukraine and Russia, for a long time. There, they may have been the first human group to domesticate the horse, which became a key aspect of their culture! This advantage gave them the means to make their way into Europe during the Bronze Age (very recently, in genetic terms). Today, they make up a substantial proportion of the people in Poland, Hungary, Ukraine, and nearby areas of Russia and other countries. You can see a gradual decline in R1a men as you go from Eastern Europe to the West. This is called a cline or genetic gradient. R1a is also found in Central and Southwest Asia, but is found in only a small percentage of Calabrians. An interesting link: www.familytreedna.com/haplotree.html
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Nov 19, 2005 19:58:48 GMT -7
Post by jimpres on Nov 19, 2005 19:58:48 GMT -7
Nancy,
A few on the genealogical lists I am on are doing the DNA tests. Especially if I find out mine comes from Pakistan ; )) Especially at $100 for the test.
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Nov 19, 2005 20:04:29 GMT -7
Post by nancy on Nov 19, 2005 20:04:29 GMT -7
Jim, I think we are on some of the same lists The tests could be really important for someone who is really uncertain about their origin. For instance, I heard that Oprah Winfrey had the testing done, and learned that she is a Zulu. As for me, I'm Polish!
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Nov 19, 2005 20:15:40 GMT -7
Post by jimpres on Nov 19, 2005 20:15:40 GMT -7
Hmmm let me see Mother's name was Blazejewska, fathers Przedzienkowski, OK I'm Polish
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Nov 19, 2005 22:16:27 GMT -7
Post by justjohn on Nov 19, 2005 22:16:27 GMT -7
Garden Moma, What is this about the arc swooping out from Russia that you mentioned in the food section (blood types came up). I am A+, how does that relate to this arc? Or a B+ as I. I have ehard about the geneological blood testing. Pretty fascinating.
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Nov 19, 2005 22:26:10 GMT -7
Post by gardenmoma on Nov 19, 2005 22:26:10 GMT -7
Well, I'm here tonight, anyway... What I was refering to does not even "get into" in the strict sense of molecular / DNA-based genealogy...but is "straight" ABO / rh factor blood typing. As Jim remarked AB+ blood type is pretty rare...can not remember the statistics, but will look up... and seems to have been concentrated in an arc coming through Poland...southeast or northeast? I need to double check. Yes, it is fascinating...and I have a really funny family story to go along with that information later. GM
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Nov 22, 2005 19:16:50 GMT -7
Post by jimpres on Nov 22, 2005 19:16:50 GMT -7
GM, Czekam, I am waiting for the funny story........
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Nov 22, 2005 22:03:10 GMT -7
Post by gardenmoma on Nov 22, 2005 22:03:10 GMT -7
Do you want the really long-winded version? or the cut-to-the-punch-line short version? I am still trying to find a WWW source for my information...will probably need to give it up and telephone my friend. GM
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Nov 22, 2005 23:00:11 GMT -7
Post by Jim on Nov 22, 2005 23:00:11 GMT -7
GM, You tell it and I'll read it whichever is convenient for you.
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Nov 23, 2005 6:56:42 GMT -7
Post by nancy on Nov 23, 2005 6:56:42 GMT -7
I will read it also, I like details, but I always read the punch line first
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Nov 25, 2005 18:38:13 GMT -7
Post by kaima on Nov 25, 2005 18:38:13 GMT -7
Do you want the really long-winded version? or the cut-to-the-punch-line short version? I am still trying to find a WWW source for my information...will probably need to give it up and telephone my friend. GM I checked out blood types years ago with my AB+ I was curious. You talk of an "ARC", and the closest I can find is sophistikatedkids.com/turkic/63%20Blood%20Types/Blood%20TypesEn_files/image008.gifbut the entire page is more interesting at www.turkicworld.org/ There is an A allele in the document. Is this what you were looking for? Kai
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Nov 25, 2005 20:23:34 GMT -7
Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 20:23:34 GMT -7
I thought that the B type was also interesting since it came from the East and the more to Western Europe you go the less B type you see.
AS for AB -- it is the newest blood type ever!
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Jun 13, 2007 5:02:15 GMT -7
Post by rdywenur on Jun 13, 2007 5:02:15 GMT -7
Aha...2 years later an still no story. I wish to hear the long version. ;D
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