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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 1:48:04 GMT -7
Warning: I say that watching this should only be done with the Audi alteram partem (or audiatur et altera pars) mindset, meaning "listen to the other side", or "let the other side be heard as well".
Together with the BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera, Fox News, Wall street Journal, the Washington Post and The New York Times in mind.WATCH LIVE: RT in Russiabnonews.com/index.php/live-feeds/rt/ RT (formerly Russia Today or Rossiya Segodnya (Russian: Россия Сегодня)) is a Russian state-controlled international television network funded by the Russian government. It operates pay television or free-to-air channels directed to audiences outside of Russia, as well as providing Internet content in Russian, English, Spanish, French, German and Arabic.
RT is a brand of TV-Novosti, an autonomous non-profit organization founded by the Russian state-owned news agency RIA Novosti in April 2005. During the economic crisis in December 2008, the Russian government, headed by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, included ANO "TV-Novosti" on its list of core organizations of strategic importance to Russia. RT operates as a multilingual service with channels in five languages: the original English-language channel was launched in 2005, the Arabic-language channel in 2007, Spanish in 2009, German in 2014 and French in 2017. RT America (2010–2022), RT UK (2014–2022) and other regional channels also produce local content. RT is the parent company of the Ruptly video agency, which owns the Redfish video channel and the Maffick digital media company.
RT has regularly been described as a major propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy. Academics, fact-checkers, and news reporters (including some current and former RT reporters) have identified RT as a purveyor of disinformation and conspiracy theories. UK media regulator Ofcom has repeatedly found RT to have breached its rules on impartiality, including multiple instances in which RT broadcast "materially misleading" content.
In 2012, RT's editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan compared the channel to the Russian Ministry of Defence. Referring to the Russo-Georgian War, she stated that it was "waging an information war, and with the entire Western world". In September 2017, RT America was ordered to register as a foreign agent with the United States Department of Justice under the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Margarita Simonyan compared the channel to the Russian Ministry of Defence. Margarita Simonovna Simonyan (Russian: Маргарита Симоновна Симоньян; born 6 April 1980) is an Armenian-Russian journalist. She is the editor-in-chief of the Russian state-controlled media organisations RT (formerly Russia Today) and Rossiya Segodnya. In 2022, Simonyan was sanctioned by the European Union for "actions and policies which undermine the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine".RT was banned in Ukraine in 2014 after Russia's annexation of Crimea; Latvia and Lithuania implemented similar bans in 2020. Germany banned RT DE (RT Germany) in February 2022. After the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Poland and then the entire European Union as well as Canada announced they were formally banning RT as well, while independent service providers in over 10 countries suspended broadcasts of RT. Social media websites followed by blocking external links to RT's website and restricting access to RT's content. Microsoft removed RT from their app store and de-ranked their search results on Bing, while Apple removed the RT app from all countries except for Russia.Source: Wikipedia
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 1:49:07 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 2:02:26 GMT -7
Dr Vera Michlin-Shapir is an expert on the impact of global trends on Russian domestic transformations and Russia’s media, as well as on foreign and defence policies. Her book “Fluid Russia: Between the National and the Global” will be published in 2021 with Cornell University Press.
She worked at the Israeli National Security Council, Prime Minister’s Office, 2010–16, and was a Research Fellow at the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies, 2016–20. She holds a PhD from Tel Aviv University; MPhil in Russian and East European Studies from St Antony’s College, University of Oxford, and BA in War Studies and History from King's College London.
P.S.- This is an old video, but interesting from the perspective of the Russian perspective and propaganda. If you look at the maps in this video you see how much territory the Russians today have gained in Eastern and Southern Ukraine.
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 4:18:56 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 8:41:37 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 11:24:46 GMT -7
Image of Great Britain on Russian TV before 2022
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 11:32:09 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Jul 18, 2022 11:51:07 GMT -7
Pieter
This presentation as presented is very important to thinking people. For yes, there is most always two sides of the Roman coin and as you have presented, Audi alteram Partem. For rather one side or the other, is a story and reason of being.
In the matter of information, rather be it of the Eastern side or Western side, each has their own reasons of being and justification. What matters is the reality of now, then what is for the future. For each goes their own particulate of propaganda, it is then for the observer to locate the grains of truth or in the manner of diplomatic language: What is truth and what is an aberration of the truth.
With this situation of Ukraine, it is easy to be carried away by the sights of death, destruction and cries of those hurt by the war. Yes, and no, myself am a human being also and not some death seeking predator, but one with responsibility and a job to conduct. In this manner, the work that must be done, is truth and not an emotional trip to nowhere.
That of above is in no way a critical viewpoint of this presentation, but simply a manner of reply, for the body of this presentation is very vital, responsible and needed as a good work.
My self have fore mentioned this is short past and will once again repeat, the Ukrainian situation is a giant tar baby for the EU and I must say, The UN. Once to fall for the Ukrainian manner of using the war as bait to join the EU, we are sunk in that for ever tar pool. The Americans are using this war as a proxy war against Russia in their manner of keeping their skirts clean. This with the ever increasing pressure of surrounding the Russian Federation using NATO as the tool. This with the knowledge that Russians for long many years have feared being invaded by Western forces and losing their way of life.
yes, I have so spoken as above what is on my mind,, for to be socially acceptable is simply a manner of lying, or in the world of Diplomacy, an aberration of the truth. For in no manner is this as above to be construed as against my friends here on the forum, but simply words from a European.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 12:57:38 GMT -7
tass.com/ The Russian News Agency TASS (Russian: Информацио́нное аге́нтство Росси́и ТАСС, romanized: Informatsionnoye agentstvo Rossii, or Information agency of Russia), abbreviated TASS (ТАСС), is a major Russian state-owned news agency founded in 1904. TASS is the largest Russian news agency and one of the largest news agencies worldwide.
TASS is registered as a Federal State Unitary Enterprise, owned by the Government of Russia. Headquartered in Moscow, TASS has 70 offices in Russia and in the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), as well as 68 bureaus around the world.
In Soviet times, it was named the Telegraph Agency of the Soviet Union (Телегра́фное аге́нтство Сове́тского Сою́за, Telegrafnoye agentstvo Sovetskogo Soyuza) and was the central agency for news collection and distribution for all Soviet newspapers, radio and television stations. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the agency was renamed Information Telegraph Agency of Russia (ITAR-TASS) (Информацио́нное телегра́фное аге́нтство Росси́и (ИТА́Р-ТАСС), Informatsionnoye telegrafnoye agentstvo Rossii (ITAR-TASS)) in 1992, but regained the simpler TASS name in 2014.
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 13:18:27 GMT -7
Pieter This presentation as presented is very important to thinking people. For yes, there is most always two sides of the Roman coin and as you have presented, Audi alteram Partem. For rather one side or the other, is a story and reason of being. In the matter of information, rather be it of the Eastern side or Western side, each has their own reasons of being and justification. What matters is the reality of now, then what is for the future. For each goes their own particulate of propaganda, it is then for the observer to locate the grains of truth or in the manner of diplomatic language: What is truth and what is an aberration of the truth. With this situation of Ukraine, it is easy to be carried away by the sights of death, destruction and cries of those hurt by the war. Yes, and no, myself am a human being also and not some death seeking predator, but one with responsibility and a job to conduct. In this manner, the work that must be done, is truth and not an emotional trip to nowhere. That of above is in no way a critical viewpoint of this presentation, but simply a manner of reply, for the body of this presentation is very vital, responsible and needed as a good work. My self have fore mentioned this is short past and will once again repeat, the Ukrainian situation is a giant tar baby for the EU and I must say, The UN. Once to fall for the Ukrainian manner of using the war as bait to join the EU, we are sunk in that for ever tar pool. The Americans are using this war as a proxy war against Russia in their manner of keeping their skirts clean. This with the ever increasing pressure of surrounding the Russian Federation using NATO as the tool. This with the knowledge that Russians for long many years have feared being invaded by Western forces and losing their way of life. yes, I have so spoken as above what is on my mind,, for to be socially acceptable is simply a manner of lying, or in the world of Diplomacy, an aberration of the truth. For in no manner is this as above to be construed as against my friends here on the forum, but simply words from a European. Karl
I always post threads with the intention in mind that it is a organic, vital thread and that contributions of others will improve the thread. So I welcome your reply and it is consistent with my purpose of this post in particular and my contributions to this forum in general. Your qualities and quintessential content ads to the quality of this Forum. Just like the contributions of the other Forum members in specific topics, subjects and matters. This is in a way also Audi alteram Partem, because you have to keep in mind that each of us has a specific, unique and authentic individual voice. Yours is different than mine, despite our shared North West European corner. Your's will be maybe slightly more Continental European, German soziale Marktwirtschaft, German diplomatic and partly with a Danish soul. My Dutch one has a Benelux and rather heavy British and American influence, raised by Anglophile and Francophone parents and my own mix of British and American youth culture, media, sense of humor, Apple & Microsof computers, my Adobe Premiere Pro edit set, Netflix and my fondness of American movies, tv series and documentaries of PBS Frontline and PBS NewsHour with one of my favorite American sophisticated anchors Judy Woodruff, and of course the many hours of CNN and (Audi alteram partem) Fox News programs I watched. Next to Al Jazeera, Deutsche Welle (DW), ZDF/ARD, of course BBC World, and our own Dutch and Flemish tv chanals and radio stations.
Everyone has a slightly different perspective from our own life experiences, professions, family backgrounds, travels and opinions. Thank your very much for your reply. Your reply makes this thread worth while.
I sincerely hope that this thread will not be seen as Russian propaganda but as an Audi alteram partem (or audiatur et altera pars) thread. That was and is my intention.
My perception of the present day Russo-Ukrainian War is coloured by different sets of fears for Russians on one side and Ukrainians on the other side. My Polish side (50% from mothers side) has a connection with Polands Celtixc, Scythian (Ukrainian and Southern Russian), Germanic clan, Sarmatian (Iranian), Slavic and Baltic roots and heritage of Tartar (Mongolian) raids, Prussian attacks, Swedish plunder and looting of Poland, Ukrainian Cossack conquest an mass murder (of Poles and Polish Jews by Hetman Bohdan Zynoviy Mykhailovych Khmelnytsky (1595 – 1657)), Habsburg Austrian and Czarist Russian and Soviet invasions and occupations, and border conflicts with the Ukrainains, Russians, Germans, Lithuanians, Czechs and Slovaks. The brutality of both the Russians and Ukrainians against Poles in both Volhynia ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia ), Katyn ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre ), Warsaw ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising ), the Siberian Gulag and Kazakhstan (Poles being deported to Kazakhstan during the Soviet occupation of 1939-1941 of Eastern-Poland) during the Second World War, before the Second World War and after the Second World War is in my vains, genes/dna. I am not indifferent and without feeling towards the Polish concerns about that present war and greatly admire what the Poles are doing for the Ukrainians in Poland and the way they organise it. They are an example for other European nations how they organized shelter, education for Ukrainian children and organizing aid for Ukrainians inside Ukraine.
From the Dutch side I remember the Cold War, the history lessons, and the fear that existed for the 'Red danger', a Soviet invasion or Nuclear War during the seventies and eighties, and ofcourse before I was born in the late forties, fifties and sixties. Many Dutch people took farming courses after the Second World War, and emigrated to Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, Southern-Amderica, Israel, South-Africa and other places, because they really believed that after the Nazi occupation (1940-1945) a Soviet occupation would follow in the late forties, fifties or sixties. Really folks, thousands of Dutch families and individuals emigrated because they feared the Soviet Russians. A well known saying during the Cold War was 'Liever dood dan Rood' ('Rather dead than Red'), with Red, one meant the SovietUnion and Communism.
So that Polish genes, history and suffering of Russian and Ukrainian crualty (murder, mass murder, torture, rape and destruction) is part of my genes. So I am sure the war in Ukaine close by is experienced and viewed different in Poland than for instance in the Netherlands, the UK or the USA, which are more far away from the conflict.
Cheers,
Pieter
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