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Post by pieter on Jun 4, 2023 8:10:45 GMT -7
Ivo H. Daalder (born March 2, 1960 in The Hague, Netherlands), is President of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and has served since July, 2013. He was the U.S. Permanent Representative on the Council of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) from May 2009 to July 2013. He is a specialist in European security.[promotion?] He was a member of the staff of United States National Security Council (NSC) during the administration of President Bill Clinton, and was one of the foreign policy advisers to President Barack Obama during his 2008 presidential campaign.
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Post by karl on Jun 4, 2023 15:37:35 GMT -7
Pieter
This a very interesting discussion on the future of the Russian/Ukrainian war and each side presented some very valid facts and well-made statements. But, it needs be reminded that this is 3rd party discussion which should be considered speculation. For War is what it is, in a moments time to become fluid for which ever reason that for which ever reason fore seen or by complete surprise.
This war as with all other wars, will end in time, whilst easy to speak about from a safe position, no matter the outcome, Ukraine has and will suffer very heavy damage that will take years to repair, thus then, who will carry the burden of cost is a coming question. For the West has so far burden the cost of weapons and equipment to Ukraine to fight a war that is theirs and not ours, it takes not a second thought that the West will be expected to bear this burden in as well. So, where will this ever end?
Governments make the decisions and, the people have to bear the burdens of cost, people are very much aware of this, and very slow to anger. For with the past decisions of our respective governments, the people have been burdened with a downturn of their respective economies, escalating cost of goods and services, burdened with this, is climate change the activist have escalated. There is the real and present risk of public voices saying: Enough is enough, no more. For this, the voice of the public needs be listened of.
The end of wars such as this, is by diplomatic resolution.
There are only two reasons for the existence of Government: To collect taxes and provide services, all others are coexistence.
Karl
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