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Post by pieter on Jun 28, 2023 12:59:20 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Jun 28, 2023 14:56:52 GMT -7
Pieter
The video as presented is quite very interesting in the over lay of description of the incident. For it is no reflection upon yourself to the wording and presentation of news. It is the responsibility of this news organization to present the news and let the reader respondent make their own conclusions. But, in this stead, this news organization use in describing the incident with inflammatory wording that is conclusion made by themselves that may or may not be true.
What has crossed my mind is: This is a test in response to an earlier presentation made by yourself of the responsibility of professional journalism.
Non-the-less, it is a professional manner that the only lawful manner use of a firearm in a deadly confrontation is: In protection of your life or that of another.
Whilst this incident is very unusual with professional police officers, in no manner should not be a cause of such riots and destruction of private property. Those individuals involved need be arrested and charged with their crimes, it is not out of ordinary for such a mass arrest with available police officers, just a block off the area separating those individuals' freedom and use of force if required for arrest, detainment, charge and transport to the available detention facility. The arrest, charging and transport is available with use of mobile facilities.
For such a large city such as this, the above should be very easily accomplished with their enforcement budget.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jun 28, 2023 15:42:12 GMT -7
Karl,
Life has it's tragic sides and young men often make wrong decisions on certain moments. And in confrontations between human beings of the male sex often testeron goes high in the sense of agitation, tension, conflict, aggression and violence. I do believe that this accident is a tragic accident, in which I have empathy for both sides. The young men of 17 had no criminal record, but due to his Northern French Berber/Arab looks he was worried, affraid that the French police men would abuse, shoot him and therefor made the decision to drive away and that meant his death.
You have to understand that there is a French heritage of Anti-Arabism, Islamophibia, racism, xenophobia and racism.
This boy was on the wrong place on the wrong time. He knew that his ethnicity, his religion, his nationality, his heritage, and his being there at that moment was not a good thing. The French officers on the other side have bad experience with hostility of North African Berber (Imazighen), Arab and Black African youth whom are hostile towards the French police in Banlieu's, suburbs of a large French cities, or all its suburbs taken collectively. These police officers were probably hyper alert, too trigger ready and didn't knew that the kid was clean (okay).
The 17-year-old Nahel M. was shot in his car in the Paris region after failing to stop when ordered to by traffic police.
The 17-year-old driver, identified only as Nahel M., was pulled over by two policemen on Tuesday for breaking traffic rules, prosecutors said. Nahel M, 17, was shot dead by police in a traffic stop in Paris (Photo: Supplied)Nahel, a teen with North African heritage, was driving his rental car when he was stopped by two police motorcyclists on Nanterre’s Avenue Joliot-Curie. After he refused to comply with the police demands, the officer shot him at point-blank range in the chest. He drove forward a few metres before crashing into a pole. He died shortly afterwards.
The initial police version was that Nahel tried to ram into the officers, but a video posted by a witness shows a different set of events: the policemen were on foot at the side of the stationary car, with one pointing a weapon at the driver. A voice is heard saying: “You are going to get a bullet in the head.” As Nahel drove off, a single shot was fired.
Nahel lived a quiet life with his mother, who had raised him alone after his father left home. Their home in Nanterre, seven miles west of Notre-Dame, is known for its university and the high-rise business district of La Défense.
A pizza delivery man, Nahel was known for his passion for rugby league, which he had been playing since he was 14, and friends testified that he was well-loved within the local community. His life was so discreet that for much of Tuesday, the police and news reports misspelt his name as Naël.
“He was someone who had the will to integrate socially and professionally, not a kid who lived from the deal or indulged in petty delinquency,” said Jeff Puech, the president of Ovale Citoyen, the club where Nahel played rugby. He was someone who was “listening and determined to get out of it,” Mr Puech said.
The shooting prompted near-universal condemnation. “Nothing justifies the death of a young person,” said President Emmanuel Macron, who added it was “inexplicable” and “inexcusable”.
A few hours after 17-year-old Nahel M was shot and killed by French police in the Paris suburb of Nanterre, his mother posted a tearful video on social media.
“This Tuesday morning, he gave me a big kiss, and he told me: ‘Mum, I love you.’ I told him: ‘I love you, be careful,’” she said. “An hour later, what do they tell me? That my son was shot. What am I going to do? He was my life. He was my best friend. He was my son. He was everything to me.”
It was a heartbreaking message to a loved, lost son, whose death has shocked France, raising questions about racism, police brutality and ghettoisation in big cities.
Police initially reported that one officer shot at the teenager because he was driving his car at him, but this version of events was contradicted by a video circulating on social media and authenticated by AFP.
The footage shows the two policemen standing by the side of the stationary car, with one pointing a weapon at the driver. A voice is heard saying: "You are going to get a bullet in the head."
The police officer appears to fire at the driver at point-blank range as the car abruptly drives off, advancing a few dozen metres before crashing.
The driver died shortly thereafter.
The 38-year-old policeman seen firing the lethal shot was taken into custody and is now under investigation for voluntary manslaughter.
French President Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday the shooting was “inexplicable” and “unforgivable”.
“Nothing can justify the death of a young person,” said Macron on the third day of a visit to Marseille.
Macron said the incident had “moved the entire nation”.
Nahel M.'s lawyer, Yassine Bouzrou, said he would file a legal complaint against the policeman for voluntary manslaughter and against his colleague for complicity in the shooting.
Bouzrou also said he would file a complaint against the policemen for giving false testimony for claiming that Nahel M. had tried to run them over.
There were two passengers in the car at the time of the shooting. One ran off and the other, also a teenager, was briefly detained.
If I (Pieter) look a the photo of the Young French teenager I see a decent face, and he reminds me of decent Moroccan young men I have worked with or interviewed in Arnhem in the Netherlands during my more than 17 year career in the local media over here in the Eastern Netherlands. Karl, I do believe that this was a very tragic incident. I am sorry for Nahel M.'s mother, Nahel M. himself whom had a life and probably a French Rugbey career ahead of him. And I am also sorry for the Police officer and his family whom probably face tension, stress and death threats. That is how the world today is.
This is a typical Murphy's law case; "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." In some formulations, it is extended to "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong, and at the worst possible time." And after this accident of course the typical black and white thinking of this Black and White world plays an important role. Migrant youth of the French Banlieu's see this tragic accident and killing as a racist murder, and the xenophobic, racist, French anti-Arab and Islamophobe will back the Police officer whom killed Nahel M.
PieterSources:inews.co.uk/news/world/paris-shooting-victim-mum-last-words-son-killed-police-2440880www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66045686edition.cnn.com/2023/06/28/europe/france-teenager-shot-police-traffic-stop-nanterre-intl-hnk/index.html
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Post by pieter on Jun 28, 2023 22:43:42 GMT -7
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