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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 9:40:38 GMT -7
 Breaking Deaths reported after twin shootings in Rotterdam Dutch police have sealed off the area around the Erasmus Medical CenterDeaths have been reported following twin shootings in Rotterdam, authorities say.
A gunman is said to have opened fire in a flat and then a medical centre in the Dutch city.
This news is breaking and the situation is developing quickly. 18:34
Press conference in around 10 minutes' timeWe're expecting a press conference at 18:45 local time (17:45 BST), with Rotterdam Mayor Aboutaleb as well as the Public Prosecution Service and the police.
We'll bring you updates from the conference when it begins.  Rotterdam Mayor Aboutaleb19:44
Suspect was convicted for animal abuse - chief prosecutorMore detail now on the circumstances surrounding the shootings in Rotterdam. During a press conference held earlier, police said the suspect shot a 39-year-old woman who lived in his neighbourhood in a house and seriously injured her 14-year-old daughter.
After setting the woman's house on fire, the gunman went to the Rotterdam Erasmus MC university hospital, where he entered a classroom and fatally shot a 46-year-old teacher, they added.
The police also said he started a fire at the hospital, before being arrested near the hospital after the second shooting.
"We have been shocked by a horrible incident. Shots were fired in two different places in the city. Many people witnessed it," Rotterdam Mayor Ahmed Aboutaleb said.
Rotterdam's chief prosecutor, Hugo Hillenaar, also said the 32-year-old suspect was known to law enforcement and in 2021 was prosecuted and convicted for animal abuse. |
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 9:48:45 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 9:51:18 GMT -7
Folks,
I know that a lot of these incidents happened and happen in the USA, but the USA is not the only country where lone wolfs or groups of people commit murders and murderous attacks. In this incident there were shootings at 2 locations, a fire was started and a hospital was attacked. A 32 year old man is possible responsible for this. First he killed a 31 year old woman and heavily wounded her 14 year old daughter. He then started a fire in the house. After that he went to the hospital and went in to a medical class room and killed a 46 year old teacher (who was also a doctor) and wounded others. He then started a fire in the hospital. He than ran to the helicopter platform of the Hospital and was arrested there. The man is a student of the Erasmus university. The chief of the Public Prosecutor office said; "This is a Black day for Rotterdam". The motive of the perpetrator is not clear. The suspect was known to the police for the abuse of animals in the past and was arrested for that crime back then. There was a joint press conference of the Mayor, Police chief and the Chief Public Prosecutor of Rotterdam.
The emotions ran high in Rotterdam, many people were witness of what happened in and around the hospital.
Pieter
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 10:06:27 GMT -7
"Get Out!! Everbody Go Outside Now!!", a Rotterdam Police officer shouts in the beginning
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 10:16:03 GMT -7
Rotterdam has a problem with bomb explosions and clashes with rival criminal gangs for a while now. This human disaster is probably not related to that.
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 11:55:16 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 11:57:36 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 12:28:00 GMT -7
Report Dutch Youth News - Journal (Jeugdjournaal)
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 16:18:45 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2023 16:33:17 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 29, 2023 5:32:24 GMT -7
Inside the MEC Hospital in Rotterdam after the armed attack with a gun and molotov cocktails
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Post by pieter on Sept 29, 2023 5:41:35 GMT -7
The arrest of the suspect
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Post by karl on Sept 29, 2023 10:54:55 GMT -7
Pieter
It is not enough to say or think of: What is the motive for any person to act out such acts of violence as discussed and brought into focus by visual means such as these video reports. Motive or mindset is not in the equation of the act, what is done is clear and present. What next is the question? How to prevent such an event to occur again or at least, how to make it most difficult to act out such an event to then occur again.
Of some instances that are at fault, is our own respective laws for the protection of individuals such as the German Basic Law or constitution. Of this as a basis of intent in the rule of law, then becomes in the passage of time, a permissive thinking of the individual is suffering from a malady created by society. This then removes the guilt of personal responsibility that once was the prevalence of a Democratic way of life.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Sept 30, 2023 6:23:42 GMT -7
Karl,
The authorities in Rotterdam failed big time. A neighbour of migrant descent told the press, everybody knew that this man was a danger to his environment, himself and animals. He tortured his rabbit in the garden, kicking and hitting it and abused his own dog by shorting an arrow of his crossbow in the dogs thigh. Neighbours saw bloody hands on the wall inside. He shot with the crossbow at fish as well. They wanted to prevent him getting a doctors grade due to his background and his distorted misogamy, racism and antisemitism. His extreme hatred of women and people was scary. This is a psychotic and extremely dangerous person with a fascination for Nazism, killing and Islam ☪️. Ofcourse his distorted view of Islam ☪️. He thought that Islam is anti women like him. He also has an Autostic disorder.
The authorities knew about this person, but they didn’t removed him from the civil society. The sad result we know now Karl. A lot of questions are asked now and there is a pressure on the authorities to do something about this threat. There are other lunatics out there as well.
Pieter
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Post by Jaga on Oct 1, 2023 6:20:13 GMT -7
Pieter, that is really bad. I have also heard that Sweden became the most dangerous country in Europe due to the gang fights and so many immigrants
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