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Post by Jaga on Jun 9, 2024 18:37:54 GMT -7
Is it really worth to have these actions where there are so many innocent civilians killed? apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-06-09-2024-61eb1be9a9d0cf2dbf250cd4a8ed4dbfGaza’s Health Ministry says 274 Palestinians were killed in Israeli raid that rescued 4 hostagesDEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — At least 274 Palestinians, including dozens of children, were killed, and hundreds more were wounded, in the Israeli raid that rescued four hostages held by Hamas, Gaza’s Health Ministry said Sunday. The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire and responded during the complex daytime operation in central Gaza. The killing of so many Palestinians, in a raid that Israelis celebrated as a stunning success, showed the heavy cost of such operations on top of the already soaring toll of the 8-month-old war ignited by Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack. The Israeli bombing was “hell,” witness Mohamed al-Habash told The Associated Press. “We saw many fighter jets flying over the area. We saw people fleeing in the streets. Women and children were screaming and crying.” |
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Post by Jaga on Jun 9, 2024 18:42:27 GMT -7
here is more about it from the USA Today: www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/israel-hamas/2024/06/09/israeli-war-updates-gaza-hamas/74035396007/One day after dramatic hostage rescue, Israeli War Cabinet minister Benny Gantz resignsMilitant-held Israeli hostages were among the more than 200 people killed in the raid that freed four captives and has been lauded as heroic in Israel but described as a massacre across much of the Middle East, Hamas officials said Sunday. As Israel celebrated the hostage rescue, the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was shaken by the resignation of War Cabinet minister Benny Gantz, adding instability to Netanyahu's already fragile ruling coalition.
Abu Obaida, spokesman for the Hamas Al-Qassam Brigades military wing, called Saturday's raid a "complex war crime." He said three hostages were killed in the attack, including one holding a U.S. passport, a claim Israeli military spokesperson Peter Lerner said should be taken "with a pinch of salt."
"By committing horrific massacres, the enemy was able to free some of his prisoners, but at the same time, it killed some of them," Obaida said. "The operation will pose a great danger to the (remaining hostages) and will have a negative impact on their conditions and lives."The Israeli operation Saturday involved hundreds of troops and heavy air support that pounded the Nuseirat refugee camp. Freed captives Noa Argamani, 25; Almog Meir Jan, 21; Andrey Kozlov, 27',; and Shlomi Ziv, 40, were in good health and being reunited with their families, Israeli authorities said. Lerner said they were held "in civilian homes, putting them within the civilian arena." Neighboring Egypt and Jordan expressed outrage at the Israeli attack, calling it a violation of international law. Lebanon’s foreign ministry condemned the “massacre." Jasem Mohamed Albudaiwi, secretary-general of the Gulf Cooperation Council, called the attack "a heinous and terrorist crime that targeted defenseless innocents with brutality." But Netanyahu remained ecstatic Sunday, saying in a social media post: "Happy is the people that is blessed with its heroes. We will continue together to do our utmost to return all of the hostages, and to achieve victory over our enemies." |
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Post by Jaga on Jun 21, 2024 22:10:41 GMT -7
+++The stated goal of HAMAS is to murder all Jews and they do not differentiate which nationality they are of.+++
Karl, where did you take this statement from?
Hamas does not acknowledge the state of Israel for sure, just like Israel does not acknowledge the state of Palestine. Not to acknowledge the country is a different thing that killing all people. Until now it is Israel that killed and displaced millions of people.
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Post by pieter on Jun 22, 2024 2:17:36 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Jun 22, 2024 20:40:04 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Jun 22, 2024 21:01:53 GMT -7
Karl,
this source - "aemricanmilitarynews" is not any widely known and legitimate source. I have never heard about it.
Do you ever read Reuters, BBC, DW?
Israel right wing government official openly argues for removing all Palestinians from Gaza. Gaza infrastructure is dead. At least 5% of Gaza population was killed by Israel mainly. Children in Gaza who are not dead have no safe shelter, house, school. All universities in Gaza were destroyed.
HOW WOULD YOU JUSTIFY THIS? DOES ISRAEL CARE FOR PEOPLE IN GAZA? DOES ISRAEL IS ANY BETTER THAN HAMAS? Even Israel's military is against permanent war:
Yes, there is some resistance, but it is more of the insurgence resistance, since there is no real Gaza authorities anymore. Netanyahu could stop this war today, but he wants to start another one against Lebanon and Syria and Iran.
This is an old video from many months ago when Gaza was still not completely in ruin:
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Post by Jaga on Jun 22, 2024 21:06:26 GMT -7
Karl,
Stalin had a permanent war with the internal enemy, his Russian people, anti-communists, kulaks. Hitler wanted to destroy resistance movement in Poland. Do you think that Netanyahu would be able to kill and conquer Gaza and kill all their people, as well as Lebanon, Syria, Iran? What is Israel's objective? Do Jewish people are more important than Palestinian people? How would you explain this to Palestinian mother and her child? Would you blame it on Hamas, their leader, Hamas - the idea? How would you make them to trust Israel again if Israel wants to get rid of them and does not treat them as HUMANS?
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Post by karl on Jun 23, 2024 14:14:53 GMT -7
Jaga As fore mentioned, I am not an activist for or against Arab Palestinians and will not justify actions of Israel or condemn it, for this would be an endless argument. Information is my work. I do understand if you are not aware of the American Military News publication as it is military and not civilian. But, I do understand of your interest in the losses the Arab Palestinians are suffering at this time and date as human shields by HAMAS. The following is of BBC news of very similar information as provided and rejected by yourself earlier. www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67039975?0=utm_source=ground.newsKarl |
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Jun 23, 2024 20:55:41 GMT -7
Jaga As fore mentioned, I am not an activist for or against Arab Palestinians and will not justify actions of Israel or condemn it, for this would be an endless argument. Information is my work. I do understand if you are not aware of the American Military News publication as it is military and not civilian. But, I do understand of your interest in the losses the Arab Palestinians are suffering at this time and date as human shields by HAMAS. The following is of BBC news of very similar information as provided and rejected by yourself earlier. www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67039975?0=utm_source=ground.newsKarl I agree with you Karl !!!
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Post by Jaga on Aug 10, 2024 9:32:12 GMT -7
Karl, here is Smotrich who said that starving 2 mln Palestinians is morally justified. Israel’s Western allies slam Israeli minister’s remark that Gaza starvation may be justified apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-starvation-smotrich-europe-0a0a0e6013eb8cc8cd54bd54f3059dfb JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel’s Western allies have condemned remarks by the country’s far-right finance minister who suggested that the starvation of Gaza’s population of more than 2 million Palestinians “might be just and moral” until hostages captured in Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel are returned home. Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said in a speech on Monday that Israel had no choice but to send humanitarian aid into Gaza. “It’s not possible in today’s global reality to manage a war — no one will allow us to starve 2 million people, even though that might be just and moral until they return the hostages,” he said at a conference in support of Jewish settlements. Smotrich, a key partner in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s governing coalition, supports the reoccupation of Gaza, the rebuilding of Jewish settlements that were removed in 2005, and what he describes as the voluntary migration of large numbers of Palestinians out of the territory. The European Union on Wednesday condemned his remarks, noting that the “deliberate starvation of civilians is a war crime.” EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell called the remarks “beyond ignominious,” saying “it demonstrates, once again, his contempt for international law and for basic principles of humanity.” |
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Post by Jaga on Aug 10, 2024 9:33:21 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Aug 10, 2024 9:33:41 GMT -7
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