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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 10:38:17 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 11:27:37 GMT -7
@tiggowich6 month agoGerman perspective here: My great grandparents and partly my grandparents grew up in Nazi Germany. My grandparents and my parents then lived through the socialist hell in East Germany.
You know how I know that the current situation is bad? I know, because all 3 generations continuously describe how much they feel reminded of the times that led up to these horrible regimes.@fenriswolf-always-forward6 months agoThe reason was Versailles. You can analyse as much as you want, try to rewrite history, etc. If you take people's bread and coal, in the mud and freeze of Germany - they will rise up. My grandmother stole potatoes and coal as a 5 year old. That was her JOB.@edonasol81926 months agoAs a German, I see a paradigm shift in our society that worries me more and more: what you do or say is no longer relevant, what is more important (again) is who or what you are or which group you belong to. What amazes me above all is how confused ideologies from the USA are being adopted completely unthinkingly and uncritically and grafted onto our society, despite our different social and historical backgrounds. This trend has found its way into the German government in particular, which seems to be making more and more efforts to de-structuralise a hitherto functioning economic power for ostensibly moral but predominantly fantasised reasons. Critical reaction of a German ( @achimschmidt5888 )5 months agoIt is interesting when Anglo-Saxons discuss Germany. The cultural and historical background is very different from that of Germany, which makes it not easy to get to the actual reasons for the catastrophe. Many aspects have already been added in the comments, mostly by Germans, which says a lot about my compatriots. I'm excited to hear what historians will report about the catastrophe we're currently sliding into. However, Germany's role in this will be manageable.@endresbielefeldt20506 months agoAs a German i find myself to be a foreigner in my own land more and more. Perceiving this change in me as it happens and progresses sends shivers down my spine. It feels like you are not supposed to even question the standard narrative of any given topic and the ones i am wondering about are plenty. Political hypocricy, bad descisions regarding energy and migration politics, my change towards the carnivore lifestyle and this general mindset of seeing others failing as a good thing really leave me wondering if i am a bad culture fit or wether i just should give up and go down with the flow of everybody else.@joergsi57886 months ago What was not mentioned in this discussion was the state that Germany was in during the Great Depression ((1929–1933). In a nutshell, Germany had areas which were facing local civil wars. In addition, the parties were acting like mobsters, the SPD, KPD, DNVP (German National Peoples party; Deutschnationale Volkspartei), and NSDAP (Nazi party) Members were beating the crap out of each other, the result was the founding of "protection groups" within the parties, the Roter Frontkämpferbund ("Alliance of Red Front-Fighters"), a Communist far-left paramilitary organization affiliated with the Communist Party of Germany (KPD ; Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands) during the Weimar Republic (1918-1933), Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold (German: "Black, Red, [and] Gold Banner of the Reich") for the SPD (Social Democrats, Germany's Labour Party), their Active members were divided into master formations (Stafo) and the elite units into protection formations (Schufo). In spring 1931, 250,000 men belonged to the Schufos of the Reichsbanner of the Social Democratic SPD, the (Der) Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten (German: 'The Steel Helmet, League of Front-Line Soldiers') of the German Nationalistic, Monarchist and antisemitic DNVP, and SA (Paramilitary Nazi Bronwskirt paratroopers) for Adolf Hitler's Nazi party, the NSDAP. The pro-democracy paramilitary organization Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold (German: [ˈʁaɪçsˌbanɐ ˈʃvaʁts ˈʁoːt ˈɡɔlt], "Black, Red, [and] Gold Banner of the Reich") was an organization in Germany during the Weimar Republic (1918-1933) with the goal to defend German parliamentary democracy against internal subversion and extremism from the extreme left (KPD/Roter Frontkämpferbund) and far right (SA and Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten) and to compel the population to respect and honor the new Republic's flag and constitution. It was formed by members of the left-wing Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), the centre-right to right-wing, Roman Catholic, German Centre Party (Zentrum), and the centrist German Democratic Party ((Deutsche Demokratische Partei, DDP, a liberal, centre-left German politidal party) in February 1924. While the Reichsbanner was set up as a multiparty organization, it came to be strongly associated with the Social Democratic Party. Its name is derived from the Flag of Germany adopted in 1919, the colors of which were associated with the Weimar Republic and liberal German nationalism, and incidentally, were also the traditional party colours of its three founding parties: the Centre Party (black), the Social Democratic Party (red), and the Democratic Party (gold). Reichsbanner Meeting in 1929 Reichsbanner marching, 1928, Weimarer Republik (1918-1933) Reichsbanner marching, 1930, Weimarer Republik (1918-1933) Weimar Coalition poster from the December 1924 German federal electionThe Communist Red Front![https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Bundesabzeichen_1924-1926.svg/1024px-Bundesabzeichen_1924-1926.svg.png](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Bundesabzeichen_1924-1926.svg/1024px-Bundesabzeichen_1924-1926.svg.png) Reich meeting of the Red Front Fighters Association 1927 (Ernst Thälmann (l.) and Willy Leow (r.)) Roter Frontkämpferbund (the Red Front) Marching in June 1927 Pentecost mass gathering of the paramilitary Communist organisation Red Front (Roter Frontkämpferbund) in Berlin in 1928 in the Weimarer Republik (1918-1933) Red front (Roter Frontkämpferbund) Pentecost meeting in the Berlin Lustgarten in 1928 Propaganda van for the Red Aid (Rote Hilfe) in the Berlin Lustgarten at the Whitsun meeting in 1928The Brownskirt SA paratroopers of the Nazi party NSDAP An SA unit in Berlin in 1932, Weimarer Republik (1918-1933), Germany An SA unit in Nuremberg, 1929, Weimarer Republik (1918-1933), Germany Hitler and Hermann Göring with SA stormtroopers in front of Frauenkirche, Nuremberg in 1928, Weimarer Republik (1918-1933), GermanyStahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten of the Nationalist, Monarchist and antisemitic German National Peoples Party (DNVP) The festival march of over 5,000 participants with at least 100 flags at the Stahlhelm and Treubundtag in Lübeck (1927), Weimarer Republik (1918-1933), Germany Entry of the Stahlhelm flag companies during the major event “Ten Years of the Versailles Treaty”, German Stadium (Berlin), June 1929 13th Front Soldiers' Day of the Steel Helmet at Berlin-Tempelhof Airport with around 150,000 participants in September 1932 Members of the so-called “Wehrstahlhelm” (1934), old Stahlhelm, Association of Frontline Soldiers (Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten) members in the New Nazi Germany
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:15:31 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:18:06 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:19:01 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:23:55 GMT -7
What they say about the reserved attitude of Germans towards strangers can be applied to Dutch people and Danes as well. It is a form of respecting the space of others, while foreign visitors may mistake that for distant behavior, inpoliteness and lack of hospitality. But once you get to know a German, Dutch person or Dane he or she will be very friendly, interested and could be actually your friend. But it takes some effort, understanding of German/Dutch/Danish etiquette, social codes, behavior, traditions and customs. North West European cherish their privacy and sometimes like some annonymity.
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:26:15 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:37:00 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 19, 2024 13:37:48 GMT -7
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