Jewish anti-semitic cartoons

[pieter]

Israeli artists decided to have a cartooncompetition
themselves, because they found jews can draw
anti-semitic cartoons better than Iranians, Arabs
or Europeans.

Watch this site: www.boomka.org/

Pieter

[pieter]

I doubted about my answer and voted jewish anti-semitism is racism too,
but I think the contest is a good thing because it has no anti-semitic
purpose. It could be a good anti-doses against real anti-semitic Islamist
and Neo-Nazi cartoons.
I doubted if I would vote Frredom of speech is dear to me and jews may
mock themselves, because I stand behind this three questions.

Pieter

[bescheid]

My vote was: I just don't like it.

It is just my feeling, I think the cartoons are tasteless, vulgar and playing with fire with peoples emotions.

But, this is only my personal opinion how ever faulted it may be.

The cartoons create humour out of some thing that should not be proposed in the first place, it takes the sting out of a political message and desensitizes a persons sense of compassion. To make it easier to find no fault against dehumanizing another race of people or, find no fault in acts of violence against them as normal.

As an example of this: The war time years, this type of manipulation was used by most war time governments to influence the public as to who and what was evil. The use of cartoons is a very strong force to use to manipulate the public into a common cause for what ever purpose, that particular government would wish.

But, perhaps I am very wrong, and with the wrong frame work of opinions, if this would be the case, I certainly do hope my opinions are faulted.

Charles

[pieter]

Bescheid,

I understand your opinion from a feeling of common sense, humanity, and probably
in your personal experiance as American and German.
People forget that selfhatred and mockery is part of many peoples in the world,
but especially jews, Arabs, Duch and Germans are strong in that feeling.
I just saw the exellent movie about Goebbels, and saw how this "lost life"
was governed by failure, suicidal tendensies, hatred and belief in an ideology
and propaganda. Anti-semitism is a deep rooted and ancient phenomenon,
which shapes itself into a form of the time it is living.
And today it has as many forms as in the past, far right, the left extreme
variant and the Islamic and christian forms of it, and even Jewish.
In the heated Kulturkampf between the secular-humanist (atheist
and agnostic) left and the National-religious right, the liberal left in
Israel used anti-semitic cliche's (images) of the stettl and getto's
of the orthodox jews in the Central-European past.
The disgust and hatred towards both sides sometimes seems anti-semitic
to me. Far right jews calling jews weak spineless people,
and secular Israelis, calling the orthodox a plague for the country.
In Germany I met young Germans who were fiercly anti-German,
a radical techno-punkgroup even had the song "Germany must die".
People have diffculties with their background, past, nationality,
culture and religion everywhere, and everywhere there are people
who broke the chains with their background, roots and past.
Two friends of mine who came from a very strict (narrow minded),
orthodox-protestant (Duch reformed, Calvinist; Presbyterian in
America) Puritinical background, broke with that past and got
an aversion against christianity, which they from their childhood
saw as a limitation of the truth, as hypocrosy and naiëve.
Both have stil Calvinist mentality, but reject the church they came
from and live secular lives.
Christianity was mocked a lot by this kind of people the last decades,
now jews in a reaction to anti-semitism of non-jews make
their own cartoons. It is a strange development.

Pieter

[bescheid]

Pieter

I do believe you are intune with the reality of anti-semitisium. It is contagious and dangerous once it is begun.

I would tend to suspect that some of this would lay in the university age youth. They seem to be at an age of self seeking and testing of their beliefs and that of their elders. An age of pre-adult as you may.

The problem with this is some what unsettling. Of those youths that are seeking self and questioning the teaching of their elders. Others with out the powers of common thought, will tend to believe with out question, as they have not the education or reasoning powers to do other wise. In other words, those people are followers in search of leaders.

It was interesting that you mentioned Joseph Goebbels. I was not aware there was a movie of him, but that would be good for others to see what this little ugly man was and how faulty was his reasoning.

Such a paradox though (Goebbels), was the son of a book keeper of a small lamp-wick factory. Product of a strict Catholic house hold, and was to become a priest... he was well educated, an apparent charming man, with wit and liveliness and a gifted political orator. Today, the man would have been a millionaire in sales. with his talent, he could have sold the warts off a frog.

Did the movie make show, how he killed his 5 children before himself and his wife Magda?

Charles

[Jaga]

Pieter,

this is an interesting problem and not that trivial. In some sense revealing something make it less exciting and less controversial. So, who knows. I looked at the site and there are some cartoons which are not that tasteless or ugly.

But I really do not know how to answer - I need to think about it longer

[piwo]

I don't need to think about it. I voted "I just don't like it" earlier in the day. Then after Charles wrote his reasons for "just not liking it", I wanted to just say "yeah, what he said"!