Pawian
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Post by Pawian on Jan 19, 2006 15:53:10 GMT -7
I have had a corn snake for a year now. Snakes are predators, they eat small animals, e.g. rodents. I feed frozen baby mice (after warming, of course) to her. This is still accepable. But a few times I had to buy live mice and give them to the snake too. The view was quite drastic, I admit. www.republika.pl/jerzybo/snake/snake.jpgwww.republika.pl/jerzybo/snake/snake2.jpgwww.republika.pl/jerzybo/snake/snake3.jpgwww.republika.pl/jerzybo/snake/snake4.jpgNow, do you think it is unchristian to keep predators and feed them on live animals? Snakes are also God`s creation. "When the stars threw down their spears And water'd heaven with their tears: Did he smile his work to see? Did he who made the Lamb make thee?" What about keeping other reptiles, e.g. chameleons, and feeding them on live crickets etc.? Is there a difference? Are chameleons more Christian?
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nancy
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Post by nancy on Jan 19, 2006 16:40:59 GMT -7
Pawian,
Why do you see this as a Christian vs. non-Christian issue?
Any living creature that comes under our care must be fed (and watered).
I think it would be bad to have control over an animal and not feed it.
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Post by suzanne on Jan 19, 2006 19:39:43 GMT -7
I don't really see where "un-Christianness" would come into the picture, since snakes are by nature carnivorous predators and eating mice, dead or alive, is just simply what they do. Besides, putting a rodent and snake together doesn't necessarily mean the rodent will become the snake's dinner, according to this article I found today - check this out! news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4627950.stm
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Post by nancy on Jan 19, 2006 20:04:41 GMT -7
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Post by nancy on Jan 19, 2006 20:17:04 GMT -7
Suzanne's example:
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Post by suzanne on Jan 19, 2006 20:22:26 GMT -7
I had forgotten that story of the hippo and the tortoise! Thanks for the link and the picture
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Post by rdywenur on Jan 19, 2006 20:34:55 GMT -7
I was thinking Pawian asked the question because a snake is a symbol in most books as a symbol of evil or of Satan. As in Adam and Eve. Is just a symbol and having one as a pet does not make anyone less Christian in MHO. (...please never invite me to your home thank you very mcuh...yukkkkk!!!!! I hate snakes)
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Post by forza on Jan 20, 2006 6:33:48 GMT -7
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Post by Pawian on Jan 20, 2006 15:02:01 GMT -7
Forza, now you have really got me down. I won`t sleep at night, seeing things. Why? Couldn`t you have done it in a more delicate way? You know how sensitive I am.
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Pawian
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Post by Pawian on Jan 20, 2006 15:18:32 GMT -7
To all,
It is a serious problem to me. Some of you asked why I see it in terms of Christianity.
But it is Christianity that tells us we mustn`t kill. And feeding live mice to a snake is killing them. True, I do not do the killing myself, but I am an accomplice to crime somehow. I sponsor it every week.
Nobody made me get the snake. It was my own, free decision, based on my perverse interest in all predators and an unconquerable desire to have a chance of observing their behaviour.
Frozen mice are innocent martyrs of my sick interests too, because they are killed before freezing. Buying them, I make the baby mice death toll go higher and higher every week.
If I was Christian, I would have refrained from getting a snake which kills and got a fruit-eating iguana instead.
PS. I think I must go to a doctor. I am planning/dreaming to get me a giant fish tank and keep piranhas in it. Help!
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Post by nancy on Jan 20, 2006 17:44:56 GMT -7
But it is Christianity that tells us we mustn`t kill. And feeding live mice to a snake is killing them. True, I do not do the killing myself, but I am an accomplice to crime somehow. I sponsor it every week. And sometimes you yourself eat meat, do you not? The same could be said about a decision to have children ... So does my cat, but I encourage this behavior. OK, you have convinced me - you are not Christian. What are you? OK, I can answer my own question - you are
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Post by Pawian on Jan 21, 2006 14:13:23 GMT -7
But I don`t kill this poor porker which provides me its meat. . Children = predators? So you are an accomplice in a crime too. What does American law say about it? Fallen Angel?
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