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Post by Jaga on Jul 21, 2007 8:57:25 GMT -7
In Polish we say" "sa rowni i rowniejsi" I just heard today in the news that the priest who killed 8 years olf boy (who on the picure looked just like my nephew) on the cross walk - was sentenced innocent! He was overspeeding, it was on the cross walk and.... he was just innocent! Just because he is a priest. Here is another story, the priest killed a woman and escaped from the accident and then... he is still free and probably he will be free forever here is a story www.racjonalista.pl/kk.php/s,1729 Autor tekstu: P.J.; Orygina³: www.racjonalista.pl/kk.php/s,1729 Je¿eli zwyk³y cz³owiek jad¹c z nadmiern¹ prêdkoœci¹ potr¹ci i zabije innego cz³owieka, ucieknie z miejsca wypadku i jeszcze to ukrywa, to gdy zostanie z³apany idzie do wiêzienia. Ale dotyczy to tylko zwyk³ych zjadaczy chleba. Co innego gdy tej samej zbrodni dopuœci siê ksi¹dz, w dodatku katolicki. Wtedy nawet s¹d jest w stanie uznaæ winê pieszego. Ponad trzy lata temu, 27 marca 1997 roku, 66 — letnia Aniela B. wraca³a autobusem od syna ze szpitala. Oko³o godziny 20.30 wysiad³a na przystanku w Wiel¹czy. Do domu mia³a kilkadziesi¹t metrów, które przemierza³a poboczem. Nagle zza pagórka wyjecha³ pêdz¹cy ponad 110 km godz.,bia³y ford eskort. Samochód z ogromn¹ si³¹ uderzy³ w kobietê, powoduj¹c jej œmieræ na miejscu ...
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Post by oldpolish on Jul 21, 2007 10:27:19 GMT -7
Does only my firefox don't display the page?
By the way boys and gals from Rationalist are to work hard for many years if they like reach intellectual and cultural level of Church-inspired press. I know few articles from this service which shows mainly poor argumentation, problems with differing Church history from image of Church history constructed by persons like Voltaire for they own use. So there is for them a lot to do if they want replace government of catholic inspiration (do not think I ever wanted to give twins apology or defend them...) with this of atheistic inspiration which Atheism they call for fun Political Neutrality. So that's about.
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Post by Jaga on Jul 21, 2007 17:43:34 GMT -7
I understand that this website may be biased the other direction. But the first story I saw in TVP -24 about the boy being killed by a priest and priest being sentenced as innocent and it was on the crosswalk for people. So, something is really wrong there!
By the way I am a religious person, but I do not believe that priest who kill somebody is less guilty than somebody who is not a priest.
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Post by oldpolish on Jul 22, 2007 6:34:16 GMT -7
Yes, you are right for sure. I would even say that priests are in some case much more guilty than laity. I don.t wanted to give an apology of clergy but i can't express my opinion for my Fire Fox is probably lacking some plugins or something like that.
On the Christian background it is to say, that Christ gives big responsibility to clergy and says also, that His judgment upon them will be heavy in special way if they won't follow His doctrine. And thats the one case, i think. As a man and believer I feel sorry.
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Post by Jaga on Jul 22, 2007 8:27:54 GMT -7
I agree, I would also expect that priest tries to be better than the rest of the society. I wonder why the Church establishment did not draw any consequences towards these priests.
In the past presthood in Poland was considered a courageous decision. Now it seems that it attract men who want to have a privileged life. I do not want to go to any of these abuse things. But I remember there was a scandal involving Polish cleric in Austria doing some porn stuff.
On the other hand I know some very good priests, who do a very good job.
But I believe that the Church hierarchy needs to do a better work overlooking all priests.
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Post by oldpolish on Jul 22, 2007 8:43:16 GMT -7
yes, I think the same.
In Austria this seminary became even something like porno club, as i can remember.
Episcopate of Poland has no courage to correct some errors. Casus of Re. Rydzyk is essental here, all the bishops have chosen "tactical silence" as they do during all Radio Maryja scandals. This is but the one. However I didn't read Isakowicz-Zaleski's work, the think they done to him is terrible. it s scandalous that Episcopate is protecting clergy involved with cooperation with Security Service (UB) but has nothing against twins dealing with the laymen. hypocrisy?
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Post by joyce on Aug 29, 2007 3:50:39 GMT -7
Re: There are equal and these who are more equal-the way I was taught that everyone's life was the same. But yet our society places more value on certain people's lives than others. What we hear from the courtrooms, may not tell the whole story. It is up to the Judge to decide one's fate.
A judge may be "soft" in his verdict one day and be hard as nails the next. The judges here in the states are overworked-but certainly not underpaid. I wouldn't want to be a judge-to hold someone's life in your hands and determine how he/she will be punished for the crime they committed. But yet there are judges who "favor" certain individuals-which is wrong. There is alot of corruption within the court systems.
Perhaps it was the priest's first offense. Maybe the judge was lenient on him. That fact remains that a young life was taken and his parents can't get the child back. The priest will have to live with that guilt for the rest of his life-whether or not he is deemed "innocent." Our Lord will have the final judgment. Joyce
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Post by rdywenur on Aug 29, 2007 5:09:41 GMT -7
Oldpolish...try this url for the one in previous post does not pick up the last part (unless you copy the whole and paste in to your browser. tinyurl.com/2m27wd
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