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Post by leslie on Sept 10, 2007 16:12:49 GMT -7
Can somebody explain this advertising campaign slogan that has appeared in Kielce with the support of the Mayor, in English 'because we are in the EU'? I saw a brief report on the Polish Radio, English Section today.
""“Don’t give up, you’re in Kielce”"
Leslie
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Post by Jaga on Sept 10, 2007 16:25:59 GMT -7
it supposedly atracts the attention, is a bit funny and also controversial my father used to work and live in Kielce part-time. This is a nice town, although considered a center of the Polish provincional life
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Post by hollister on Sept 10, 2007 16:29:48 GMT -7
Leslie, I think the mayor intended for the message to read as a sign of encouragement and hope - you know the "don't give up - give it another go" thing. However, the way the sign is written, it implies the opposite, (tongue in cheek) Don't give up - you poor sod - your in Kielce (you could be somewhere else). They put it in English, as I understand it, to reach out to native English speakers (to make them feel at home) and to encourage those learning to speak English. All in all - an example of a basically good idea that went awry.
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Post by pieter on Sept 11, 2007 23:50:04 GMT -7
Maybe it is for unemployed and poor people, not to give up and give it a try to improve their life conditions?
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Post by zooba on Sept 12, 2007 2:22:36 GMT -7
Pter, this advert was directed to possible investors :-) I know it was meant to be optimistic but....
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Post by Pawian on Sept 12, 2007 2:38:46 GMT -7
All in all - an example of a basically good idea that went awry. That`s strange that you feel like this. I instatly understand it as : Don`t give up because you are in Kielce, a friendly European city, not some shitthole. It is a clever campaign which is intended to improve PR image of Kielce, which, although it is quite big for Polish standards, has often been considered a depressing province and a gloomy place stigmatised with the pogrom of Jews in 1946.
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Post by zooba on Sept 12, 2007 2:43:24 GMT -7
Pawian, you understand it because you know Kielce and in Polish this would sound more optimistic - nie zalamuj sie, jestes w Kielcach! Perhaps this is like the dicussion whether the glass is half empty or half full?
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Post by Jaga on Sept 12, 2007 9:03:53 GMT -7
at least this ad means that people in Kielce have a sense of humor. They are not pathetic.
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Post by Pawian on Sept 12, 2007 13:11:10 GMT -7
On the thread subject of the sign in Kielce, to me the English one reads "This is Kielce. If I were you I would keep going somewhere else as there's nothing here"!!!!! You agree with Holly`s opinion that the slogan sounds negative. I don`t think so. It could be negative if we reversed the order: You are in Kielce, don`t give up! Having the order as it is on the poster, the sentence means: Don`t give up, don`t despair, not everything is lost, you are lucky to be in Kielce, a place of friendly educated people ready to help you whenever you need it. Isn`t it simple?? Why is your perception of reality always so bleak? and even Kielce seems nickels and dimes to you? The poster is here: wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80269,4473109.html
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Post by hollister on Sept 12, 2007 13:18:13 GMT -7
Just to clarify ..... I guess I wasn't clear - what I meant to say is that the sign COULD be read in the negative - not that I personally did so - I was just trying to point out the controversy about the sign.
I am sure Kielce is a wonderful town and I would like to visit someday...
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Post by zooba on Sept 12, 2007 13:40:34 GMT -7
Now, have a look at this:
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Post by Pawian on Sept 12, 2007 13:49:25 GMT -7
Now, have a look at this: You`ve got an idea, we`ve got the place.... A clever slogan and a nice film. I liked the music in it - dynamic, and that`s what the creators meant. Poznan is a dynamic city.... Are you suggesting that Kielce could learn from Poznań
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Post by Pawian on Sept 12, 2007 13:55:52 GMT -7
I am sure Kielce is a wonderful town and I would like to visit someday... When you are there, don`t get scared by this sight. It`s not an alien body snatchers` saucer, it is .......just a bus station. hahahahahahaha Really, people who build such monuments must have a sense of humour......
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Post by leslie on Sept 12, 2007 14:00:59 GMT -7
Pawian wrote "Why is your perception of reality always so bleak? and even Kielce seems nickels and dimes to you? " Just my own feeling; my perception of reality is only bleak when that reality is bleak. It is not always, but sometimes it is. I don't understand your comment about nickels and dimes (those are part of American currency by the way; I have never been to Kielce so why would I think poorly of it, if that is what you mean, apart from going on my interpretation of the sign. Leslie
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Post by Pawian on Sept 12, 2007 14:20:57 GMT -7
Pawian wrote "Why is your perception of reality always so bleak? and even Kielce seems nickels and dimes to you? " Just my own feeling; my perception of reality is only bleak when that reality is bleak. It is not always, but sometimes it is. I don't understand your comment about nickels and dimes (those are part of American currency by the way; I have never been to Kielce so why would I think poorly of it, if that is what you mean, apart from going on my interpretation of the sign. Leslie Nickels and dimes is an American slang expression which, according to a dictionary, means chicken feed, peanuts, small potatoes, pennies. In short - little money. I used it to jokingly suggest - why do you think so lowly about Kielce? hahahahaha Now I know you don`t ......
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