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Post by Jaga on Oct 22, 2007 15:26:47 GMT -7
This is from Polish political scene. Kaczynski bribery honeytrap backfires The Kaczynski campaign against corruption has played well here. Poles are glad when wrongdoers get a comeuppance. But the zeal of the secret corruption bureau run by the executive office may have backfired in one case. Consider Beata Sawicka, a member of parliament: A year ago at a training conference, Ms. Sawicka met a wonderful man, a Pole from Germany. She's middle-aged and single. So is he. They hit it off. He sends flowers, text messages, and things turn romantic. She falls for him. He pays for seaside vacations in Italy, Bali, and Poland. After a year, she wants to marry. He proposes first that she help him with a business deal. He wants the inside track on a prime property. She finally agrees. He suggests a payoff of 100,000 zlotys ($38,700). She accepts the envelope, but then on Oct. 1 she is arrested! The lover is an agent for the bureau. Sawicka, a member of the Civic Platform opposition party who had a clean reputation, is stripped of her party membership. The case hit the media in the run-up to the election, when the government released video footage of the alleged bribe transfer. Yet in her hour of shame, something strange happened. Her sobbing confession hit the Internet and TV, taking on a life of its own. Details emerged. Despite a lack of progress in the first six months, the lover-agent had been told to persist. Such details brought Poles to ask what kind of trap this was and why taxpayer money was used on expensive vacations. In the end, it seems to have helped Tusk, not Kaczynski. "The Sawicka affair was a key moment in the switch to Tusk [among voters]" says a Polish media analyst at a Western embassy. www.csmonitor.com/2007/1023/p06s02-woeu.html?page=2
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Post by Jaga on Oct 22, 2007 15:28:57 GMT -7
Maybe Pawian wrote about it.... the government was planning a trap for its victim and this just backfired.
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Post by ludikundera on Oct 22, 2007 20:22:01 GMT -7
Unless PiS would have lost by even more without "the Sawicka affair"...
Either way, more thieves out of government: the ones who decided to spend countless tax money on Bali vacations and the one who took a bribe.
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Post by kaima on Oct 22, 2007 23:12:52 GMT -7
I think if anyone tried to entrap me for a year, in that fashion, i would go after them and torture them until they revealed the bosses .. then I would go get the bosses and do the same to them ... and in the end kill them all. I believe it would be fully justified.
Perhaps I have been under GW Bush influence for 7 years. No laws apply. Kill them all and let Allah sort them out. oh, that is God, the right name in the west. Well, if I had avoided service to my country then came into power to command the armed forces, I suppose I would also go to war with them to show I am not the coward I was. Happily I served my time honorably and don't find myself in the disgraced position Bush does. His momma must be very sad.
Entrapment over such a long period of time and with such methods. They should hang the nazis that ordered and followed the entrapment!
Kai the Righteous
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Post by Pawian on Oct 23, 2007 12:01:09 GMT -7
the government was planning a trap for its victim . It is going to be looked into by a special investigation body created by PO in the new Parliament.
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Post by Pawian on Oct 23, 2007 12:04:53 GMT -7
I think if anyone tried to entrap me for a year, in that fashion, i would go after them and torture them until they revealed the bosses .. then I would go get the bosses and do the same to them ... and in the end kill them all. I believe it would be fully justified. Perhaps I have been under GW Bush influence for 7 years. No laws apply. Kill them all and let Allah sort them out. oh, that is God, the right name in the west. Kai, I have always thought you are a pacifist! What got into you? hahahahaha
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Post by piwo on Oct 23, 2007 19:25:51 GMT -7
Kai, I have always thought you are a pacifist! What got into you? hahahahaha I think the Janet Reno effect kicked in....
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Post by Pawian on Oct 25, 2007 13:13:49 GMT -7
Today, a leading member of PiS admitted that the bribery show organized on TV by Kaczynskis` propagandists was a serious mistake which cost PiS many percent of support.
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Post by Jaga on Nov 7, 2007 10:26:31 GMT -7
There is another very strange story. One of the member of parliament, Barbara Blida, commited suicide when it was revealed that she is involved in a corruption scandal. Until now, there is very little information in mass media about it. Here is more, check this article from Canada, it talks about corruption in Poland, political atmosphere etc: thetyee.ca/Views/2007/11/07/PolandElection/The suicide of Barbara Bilda To be fair, corruption exists in Poland and annoys the average Pole, but it is not on the scale that could even remotely threaten the economy or structures of the state. The Central Anti-Corruption Bureau engaged in a string of sting operations directed primarily against the members of the opposition. As the leader of the main opposition party pointed out in a TV debate with Premier Kaczynski, no single legislative initiative came from the Kaczynski's government or his Law and Justice party to curb corruption. "You create thieves and then you chase them. This game could last forever," said Donald Tusk. Kaczynski's anti-corruption stand also took more farcical turns. He proudly announced that he didn't have a bank account and used his mother's account to discourage corruptors from depositing unsolicited money in his name. Some of the PR stunts of the Central Anti-Corruption Bureau ended tragically. When, on April 25, 2007, agents of the bureau entered the home of member of parliament Barbara Blida with a TV crew on their heels, the woman went to the bathroom and committed suicide. No proof of her corruption or even a convincing accusation against her was ever presented to the public.
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Post by Pawian on Nov 7, 2007 11:29:02 GMT -7
There is another very strange story. One of the member of parliament, Barbara Blida, commited suicide when it was revealed that she is involved in a corruption scandal. Until now, there is very little information in mass media about it. You mean American media, of course. In Poland it was a big scandal and the leftist party has already officially proposed to create a parliamentary body to investigate it.
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Post by Jaga on Nov 7, 2007 16:30:48 GMT -7
Pawian,
you are probably right of course. Still coming to somebody house with the camera to arrest the parliament member... it is outrageous. PIS created its own criminals which it chased later on.
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Post by Jaga on Nov 7, 2007 16:31:09 GMT -7
Why women are usually selected as victims?
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Post by justjohn on Nov 8, 2007 4:55:46 GMT -7
Kai, I have always thought you are a pacifist! What got into you? hahahahaha I think the Janet Reno effect kicked in.... Now, there's a name that hasn't been bantered about recently. Your sentiments are right on.
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