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Post by Jaga on Jul 25, 2008 8:28:36 GMT -7
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Post by tuftabis on Jul 25, 2008 8:49:39 GMT -7
I think so too  |
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Post by justjohn on Jul 25, 2008 12:33:14 GMT -7
I think so too Ask to Native Indian about illegal immigration !!!!!!!  |
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Post by Jaga on Jul 25, 2008 14:55:37 GMT -7
I think so too Tufta, this guy with red hair is called in American slang "white trash"  |
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Post by rdywenur on Jul 25, 2008 15:01:20 GMT -7
Jaga......the guy with red hair is drawn as a "redneck" ( hillbilly,country pumbkin)not white trash. Not all rednecks are white trash but we use that term very loosly in stereo type to describe people that are usually uneducated and not open minded. www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2718 |
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Post by Atlantis5 on Jul 25, 2008 18:35:18 GMT -7
Jaga......the guy with red hair is drawn as a "redneck" ( hillbilly,country pumbkin)not white trash. Not all rednecks are white trash but we use that term very loosly in stereo type to describe people that are usually uneducated and not open minded. www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2718Chris This is interesting....As you described, as also with my word dictionary. But, a problem: I was not able to locate {White Trash}, I was then to ask Anna, her answer: {Do not bother me with that!}. Due to the excellence of the Internet, the following was obtained as a source of examples of White Trash people. I was rather taken back with the images, for many was of appearance of some house wholes I observe whilst on my morning walk. tinyurl.com/5mrkxwIt appears to be a recognized social economic difference of social class. I had of not thought of this, but simply only in observance. Very interesting America, for it is of calm waters with a turbulent undertow of social currants. As a personal note of observation: These people have all the appearances of being happy and well adjusted to their place in life. They have their friends, their toys {motorcycles/loud and fun auto-ownership}. They do not appear to be required to meet social expectations that is against their will and wisches. I admire them for their disdain of requirements set to standards of conformity. Although, they for the most part, are conforming to their own requirement of dress and actions expected of them by their peer group. My question of you: Of the photos you have of my self in my suspender/jeans and hat. Would this constitute the term of {White Trash}? {Winter protection is similar here as in Cuxhaven, black seeman wool hat/pant/sweater} it is the cold rain and wind. For if so, this would be a fun life, no requirement of suite/tie and jacket and best of that, not a requirement of polished shoes. I think I like that life..Americans know how to have fun.. Charles |
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Post by freetobe on Jul 25, 2008 19:46:08 GMT -7
Charles,
Ah here we go again. Your neighbors are similar to some of mine. Couldn't care less about anyone but themselves. Motor cycles, go carts dogs that roam free and do it on your front lawn and some other people actions that would be censored here. "White Trash"? definition usually meant as disparagement for poor white people. "Redneck"?, referred to the southern laboring class.
In today's American English, white trash is used to describe tacky caucasions who are not always poor but behave badly. Redneck is used to identify caucasions who ascribe to social values of the rural south.
You do not fit either category
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Post by uncltim on Jul 25, 2008 22:12:20 GMT -7
You will never have a more faithful and true friend than a redneck/white trash friend.
Charles you should rent the movie Joe Dirt. It portrays a lot of white trash/redneck stereotypes but also shows the often overlooked emotional honesty of this demographic.
Cracker Tim
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Post by Jaga on Jul 25, 2008 22:13:26 GMT -7
Jaga......the guy with red hair is drawn as a "redneck" ( hillbilly,country pumbkin)not white trash. Not all rednecks are white trash but we use that term very loosly in stereo type to describe people that are usually uneducated and not open minded. www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2718Chris, you are right. Redneck is a better term |
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Post by Atlantis5 on Jul 26, 2008 6:28:21 GMT -7
You will never have a more faithful and true friend than a redneck/white trash friend. Charles you should rent the movie Joe Dirt. It portrays a lot of white trash/redneck stereotypes but also shows the often overlooked emotional honesty of this demographic. Cracker Tim Thank you Tim I think perhaps I need to locate the film of {Joe Dirt}. Thanks also to my trusty word book {Dictionary} I located the term {Cracker}. It was of 1st to describe in-as-much as I was thinking of: Cracker: { A party favour made up as a paper roll containing a trinket or candy, burst with a popping noise when ends are pulled} But, as party of your signature, this-in-turn meant of a different connotation as a description of person. This-also-in-turn, denoted as remembered from yesterday research of {White Trash} as a similar descriptive used term of {poor white-contemptuous term}, this in-turn-denoten also of: {Native or inhabitant of Georgia or Florida-a humorous usage} not withstanding of term description of: {Thin crisp/thin wafer or biscuit}. Tim, you do understand of the extreme complexity of your society! What I have not noticed is the common usage of above terms within the extent of casual conversation exchange in this area. This in-turn reveals the question of demographic location of term usage, as possibly primarily that of specific Southern State? And of course, another mystery: The term usage of {Southern State} is not entirely correct in exact. For that location whilst researching a map, revels this is in fact, {The Eastern side of The United States}, for the south, is at the South portion opposite of the North boarder division line from Canada. The last mistake of mine, was to ask Anna of: Reason the nickle is worth less then the dime even though it is of more metal. Her reply: Dummy, a nickle is made of nickle, the dime is made of silver, now do not ask more stupid questions... Well, now I am more wise in the money, now to the term usage in language. I do trust you will not label my self as stupid. I {we} studied English in a structured manner, my self whilst in school {required by our British occupiers} some classes whilst in University attendance, and of course by our office as requirement for post in North America {Canada/Unite-States}. But, I must admit, these terms we have discussed, were not even approached. Britisch English is much more approachable. American English is a trap. It should by nature of concept as being from British English as a parent language, is far more complicated in public usage. Charles |
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Post by uncltim on Jul 26, 2008 7:06:10 GMT -7
Charles, when you wonder about the meaning of American slang terms check this website. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crackerI think this would be extremely useful for most people here of birth outside of the U.S. Be warned that this is a user generated site and is not for the timid or easily offended! You will however find everything you are looking for. To my knowledge Cracker is was originally used in the late 1600s in a letter from English task masters in Georgia/Florida to describe lazy Irish and Scots to English Nobility. It is used as an insult if coming from a non-white person. It is a term of endearment if coming from a white person. Honky Tim |
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Post by uncltim on Jul 26, 2008 7:26:22 GMT -7
American english when spoken by native speakers can be extremely articulate and full of nuance.
It truly is multi-layered and changes subtly by context and venue.
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Post by Atlantis5 on Jul 26, 2008 7:28:35 GMT -7
Charles, when you wonder about the meaning of American slang terms check this website. www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crackerI think this would be extremely useful for most people here of birth outside of the U.S. Be warned that this is a user generated site and is not for the timid or easily offended! You will however find everything you are looking for. To my knowledge Cracker is was originally used in the late 1600s in a letter from English task masters in Georgia/Florida to describe lazy Irish and Scots to English Nobility. It is used as an insult if coming from a non-white person. It is a term of endearment if coming from a white person. Honky Tim Thank you Tim, for this was very good of you. I have taken the pleasure of bookmarking the site, for this is an excellent {Urban Dirctionary of terms}. Worry not of any offense to my self to suffer. My early adult hood was with our trawler fishing fleet. Charles |
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Post by franek80 on Jul 26, 2008 7:29:41 GMT -7
You will never have a more faithful and true friend than a redneck/white trash friend. The word cracker was derived from the early settlers in Florida and Southern Georgia. The Florida's Cowboy herded his cattle by the sound of the CRACK of his whip above the heads of the cattle Working in the hot Florida sun burnt the back of their necks..( REDNECK ) White uneducated trash. (WHITE TRASH ) SOOO, Does that make me white trash? I was born to poor Polish Immigrants during the great depression. No body had much money..We were all poor..After graduating from a Polish Parochial school after eight years. There was no time for school.. To help my family to survive, I had to pick beans, and strawberries. Every penny helped. But we asked for no subsidies.. We earned our own way. I subscribe to the same thinking as the other so called white trash. For all of you LIBERALS, just refer to me as. WHITE TRASH, FRANEK |
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Post by uncltim on Jul 26, 2008 7:57:17 GMT -7
Franek,
My youth was like yours. I grew up eating table scraps from the resurant that my mother worked at. I had a paper route a 13, cut grass and dug graves from 15 to 17, worked on a farm from 17 to 19, painted water towers from 19 to 21. All this and managed to graduate high school and save money to put myself(working) through college.
If perseverence and motivation make me white trash then so be it.
We must keep in mind that many readers here grew up in socialist and or communist places so they find America a frightening place in many respects.
I am a survivor, I dont need government or society in general. I owe them nothing.
I would rather dine with a truck driver than the president of a university.
Redneck: A glorious lack of sophistication....Jeff Foxworthy
Tim
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