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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 15, 2008 11:56:12 GMT -7
George "I do agree with you with an exception: We were there as also that of my self on 2 assignments in Kosovo, but I do not remember to see you there, where were you?" No i was not ever in Kosovo, however, i was in Vietnam. And having been to Vietnam, i can tell you the total stupidity of that conflict. I was a draftee, not part of the non conscript army. I think thats part of what got us into Iraq. Americans are not as critical if SOMEBODY elses's kid is there to fight. See any protest on college campuse's lately? Personelly i couldn't care less if you were in Kosovo, because we are NOT talking about Kosovo, were taking about Georgia, and we can do nothing for them. Those are the facts. The Georgia army dropped their weapons and ran. Don't expect us to pick up where they left off. And as far as Serbia is concerned, its amazing how Europeon armies were there after the US stabilized the situation. It reminds me of the calvary who comes down AFTER the battle to shoot the wounded. Something very familiar to a particular central Europeon nation during World War 2 who subdued the civilian population by murdering civilians. Such as dragging them out hospital's and killing them. And by murdering unarmed civilians . Men woman, and children. One of the most cowardly acts in the history of mankind. This central Europeon nation will have that military cowardice follow them for century's to come. If God doesn't kick their ass first. George Please calm your self, now return to your cave where the baboons live. Reconstitute your self into a Homo-saphen and return to us as a human, then surprise your self with your success. Charles
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Post by freetobe on Aug 15, 2008 14:14:30 GMT -7
Jaga, I am not impressed by the efforts of the French. The fighting continues and now the Russians threaten Poland. What EU nations will come to Poland's defense? And how much muscle will they show? I pray that Europe will step up to resolve this. The world does not need any more wars. The American people would be 100% for helping Georgia but for the middle east follies of W's administration. We don't want any more war.
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Post by wayneprice on Aug 15, 2008 15:59:47 GMT -7
Charles, You wrote: "George Please calm your self, now return to your cave where the baboons live. Reconstitute your self into a Homo-saphen and return to us as a human, then surprise your self with your success. Charles"
Completely uncalled for! This is a discussion about a serious situation occuring as we discuss it, and personal, vulgar attacks on a person that is contributing to the discussion is repugnant.
Wayne
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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 15, 2008 16:36:11 GMT -7
Charles, You wrote: "George Please calm your self, now return to your cave where the baboons live. Reconstitute your self into a Homo-saphen and return to us as a human, then surprise your self with your success. Charles" Completely uncalled for! This is a discussion about a serious situation occuring as we discuss it, and personal, vulgar attacks on a person that is contributing to the discussion is repugnant. Wayne Wayne Now calm your self. You have segmented the entire post to suit that only of what you wished to use as an argument. This was not as you say, an attack, the only attack here, is of your post to me. I hold no offense to you nor of grievance. I have though learnt through your actions more of your intrinsic feelings, and will keep this for future reference. So please, non of this Polish solidarity. Charles
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Post by wayneprice on Aug 15, 2008 16:49:46 GMT -7
Charles, My message speaks for itself, I'll let the other forum readers decide who was the attacker and who was the defender. Reminds me of a recent situation where a country in the Caucuses tried to take actions IN THEIR OWN TERRITORY, and were invaded as the "aggressors".
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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 15, 2008 18:04:25 GMT -7
Charles, My message speaks for itself, I'll let the other forum readers decide who was the attacker and who was the defender. Reminds me of a recent situation where a country in the Caucuses tried to take actions IN THEIR OWN TERRITORY, and were invaded as the "aggressors". Hallo Wayne Good attempt. As you are aware, I am German, I do not bluff. So be it as the future shall hold for us. Our path is in the front and that is our direction. Charles
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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 15, 2008 19:39:33 GMT -7
Hallo Wayne
I have been most reminisce, in response to the important matters of our discussion.
The most effective manner of complaint placement, such as yours as exampled against my self is of the following:
1}compile the text of complaint
2}enter the complaint in substance form, then submit to the Administrator.
3}Her private e-mail is gained with left klick upon her user name located at upper left corner of post message.
addendum: if other wise, then left klick upon top subject indicator directly be-neath your indicated user name/date/time. Left click {members} This will bring you to the entire listing of forum members.
Scroll down until to Jaga-Administrator, left click her name; place text of complaint and send.
This will in-self, allow her as this is her forum, to make the decision of action as fitting to her discretion and of her office.
As a side noten of one of our hated enemies that we are very fond of, was a Roman, very wise even to his death.
As follows, a Roman quot of, Julius Caesar:
{Forever, and Forever, farewell Cassius. If we do meet again, why, we shall smile;
If not, why then this parting was well made.}
Charles
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Post by wayneprice on Aug 15, 2008 20:05:18 GMT -7
Charles,
Dziękuję bardzo
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Post by wayneprice on Aug 15, 2008 20:25:48 GMT -7
Leopards don't change their spots!
A great historic pre-curser that I ran across today is the Mainila incident of 1939 where the blood thirsty Finns attacked the peace loving Russians, and the Russian response then, as today, was an overwhelming attack on Finland resulting in the Winter War.
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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 16, 2008 8:01:24 GMT -7
Wayne I am not so linguistic with little of nothing of Polish speaking. But I believe your message is {thank you}, if this is so, you are very much welcome. Charles
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Post by jimpres on Aug 16, 2008 11:16:50 GMT -7
Charles,
Wayne meant Vielen Danke, hope that is close to German. Jim
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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 16, 2008 12:32:31 GMT -7
Charles, Wayne meant Vielen Danke, hope that is close to German. Jim Danke Jim Weil das sehr nett von Ihnen war für, das Polieren von Herr Wayne. Zu übersetzen, wie Sie sehen, bin ich mit Sprachen nicht so klug. Charles
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Post by Jaga on Aug 17, 2008 18:35:19 GMT -7
There are two sides in this conflict although the US would like to see it only as the violation of Georgia suverenignty. Here in this rare interview with the girl from Ossetian family and the squarely blame Georgians. These people are Ossetians by origin: www.newshounds.us/2008/08/17/shepard_smith_bounces_ossetian_woman_blaming_georgia_for_aggression.php#moreAfter Soviet Union desintegrate Poles and other minorities in small suvereign countries which were re-created were suffering more than before (for instance Polish minority in Lithuania), during SU existence. This is a common occurence, since the small newly re-created countried underwent the burst of their nationalistic feelings. Another aspect. If we clearly feel that Russia was bad to protect Ossetia and invade Georgia what about pres. Reagan operation to invade Granada? How big was Granada compared to the US?
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Post by Atlantis5 on Aug 17, 2008 18:52:50 GMT -7
There are two sides in this conflict although the US would like to see it only as the violation of Georgia suverenignty. Here in this rare interview with the girl from Ossetian family and the squarely blame Georgians. These people are Ossetians by origin: www.newshounds.us/2008/08/17/shepard_smith_bounces_ossetian_woman_blaming_georgia_for_aggression.php#moreAfter Soviet Union desintegrate Poles and other minorities in small suvereign countries which were re-created were suffering more than before (for instance Polish minority in Lithuania), during SU existence. This is a common occurence, since the small newly re-created countried underwent the burst of their nationalistic feelings. Another aspect. If we clearly feel that Russia was bad to protect Ossetia and invade Georgia what about pres. Reagan operation to invade Granada? How big was Granada compared to the US? Thank you Jaga for presenting this. For I am most astonished with the indigenous news in the US with reporting of this situation. What I am speaking of is not to disgrace or bring dis-honour to America, but truth is what it is, truth and not an aberration there of. For the American news information has vastly used a Mis-Representation of facts as a foundation of support to political stance of American interest in Georgia. Charles
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Post by Jaga on Aug 18, 2008 20:51:55 GMT -7
I told you in the beginning. The conflict in Georgia is not as black and white as American media want to see it. Here is more information about it. Georgian president was so convinced that if he would start it America would help... therefore he started it! Here is more, a person from McCain campaign received lots of money from Georgia: On April 17, the Washington Post reports, he had a telephone conversation with Saakashvili, set up by McCain's chief foreign policy adviser, neocon Randy Scheunemann, who at the time was still being paid by his friend Saakashvili as a registered foreign agent for Georgia. After the conversation, McCain issued a statement, written by Scheunemann, in which he warned Russia over Georgian sovereignty in South Ossetia. Later that day, Scheunemann's Orion Strategies lobbying firm signed a new $200,000 deal with Georgia: all in a day's work. here is more about it: www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-lauria/did-mccain-help-bait-russ_b_119395.html
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