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Post by piwo on Feb 12, 2006 17:55:58 GMT -7
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Post by kaima on Feb 12, 2006 18:34:28 GMT -7
At least he did not shoot the bird dog!
Kai the Humanitarian
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Post by Jaga on Feb 12, 2006 22:50:19 GMT -7
There is a lesson to learn - do not stand next to vice president Cheney - since he can take you for a quail. Who pays for all these trips from one part of the US to another? Of course - the government!
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Post by piwo on Feb 13, 2006 14:32:50 GMT -7
There is a lesson to learn - do not stand next to vice president Cheney - since he can take you for a quail. Who pays for all these trips from one part of the US to another? Of course - the government! Take a breath Jaga, I take it bubba Clinton took no vacations to hang out in California with his movie industry cronies?? Get real, presidents and vice presidents take vacations. Why now are you up in arms over it? Your total dislike of the president and the vice president is becoming somewhat comical. Next thing you'll do is demand to know who pays for the water when they flush the toilets. You pay for their room, board, food, utilities, vacations: it comes as a perk with the job.
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Post by justjohn on Feb 13, 2006 17:54:58 GMT -7
It was reported that the gun used was a 28 guage over and under. Small birdshot so there was no major damage. However, remember this was a friend. Don't ever let an enemy go hunting for quail with him. It would be a 12 guage double barrel. Ooh - - oohh that smarts !!!!
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Post by Jaga on Feb 13, 2006 18:45:58 GMT -7
Piwo,
Bubba Clinton did not have so much money, he just had one possession - White Water which was under investigation all the time. His parents were not millionaires - rather white trash. During Clinton we had a surprlus and the stock market increased rapidly.
+++remember this was a friend. Don't ever let an enemy go hunting for quail with him+++
John, good point
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Post by piwo on Feb 13, 2006 19:48:18 GMT -7
Piwo, Bubba Clinton did not have so much money, he just had one possession - White Water which was under investigation all the time. His parents were not millionaires - rather white trash. During Clinton we had a surplus and the stock market increased rapidly. +++remember this was a friend. Don't ever let an enemy go hunting for quail with him+++ John, good point Jaga, I have no idea what any of that means. Bubba hob Knobbed it with celebs, movie producers, shut down LA's 405 near the airport on a Friday afternoon for 4 hours so he could get a haircut... SO WHAT. That he didn't have "so much money". That leads us to surmise you are judge and jury as to what is "too much" money??... Bubba was no poor white boy, and he's not one now. Why you believe that someone who has made money in his life is somehow undeserving to take a ride in the country or a walk in the woods is beyond me. Your hatred jades your judgment. If multi millionaire John Kerry had gotten more votes, with his multi millionaire wife in tow, I guess they would have been chained to the white house and not allowed out?? See the difference is, I neither look down on those who don't have money, nor do I sneer at those who do. I call everyone sir, whether he's living in the street, sitting behind a mahogany desk, driving a bus, or riding in a limo. Class warfare is for communists and elitists, I want no part in it.
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Post by Bob S on Feb 14, 2006 7:24:38 GMT -7
;D Jaga, et al in the forum. Just remember, Buffalo Bill Clinton took the whole White Hpuse staff, their friends and a fleet of automobiles on their little trips to other countries. I guess that was ok because it was the taxpayers who were paying for the trips. ;D
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Post by Jaga on Feb 14, 2006 9:09:15 GMT -7
Do you try to say that Bush and Cheney are poor? Besides, CLinton was a good president, he just have too many enemies. He was much smarter than Bush, he just does not have big business interests standing behind him like Bush does. He was not born rich. Kerry was also not born rich.
What is interesting, Kerry served in Vietnam while Cheney (who likes shooting) never wanted, the same Rumsfeld. Still - both of these guys are extremely hawkish with the war in Iraq - no WMD, the war which costs billions of money and seems to lead nowhere.
I would like to know why you hate Clinton so much? He is not even that liberal. He was lying but the same Bush and Cheney - they are also liars.
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Post by nancy on Feb 14, 2006 10:27:34 GMT -7
Clinton or Bush, Democrat or Republican, they ALL take trips at the taxpayer's expense.
And none of them are poor (it takes a lot of money to run a campaign and buy - I mean win - an election.)
And they all lie, they are politicians.
Nancy the Cynical
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Post by piwo on Feb 14, 2006 11:37:38 GMT -7
Jaga, where in any of the posts, did anyone suggest even remotely, that they were poor? You know good and well no one ever made such an accusation, yet you will sit here and with a strait face pretend to be aghast by something that's not been said?? You attempt to change the subject by throwing out a known falsehood. Shame, shame, shame ;D I've just made it my point to be the counterbalance here, since majority hate the incumbents and feel the need to take shots so regularly. I'll simply retort, which I have. Busch and Cheney may indeed be liars, though I'm not sure which you refer. The WMD business was based on intelligence they believed (and so did John Kerry), so unless you have the memo that says "we know there are none there, but we're going to act like it anyway", what they are guilty of is bad judgment. You presume it's a lie, but that's an opinion. Find the memo, then you got em! Maybe you are sure they are liars, just as they were "sure" there were WMD??? Oh, and if memory serves me correct, Bubba Clinton gave Haliburton their first no bid government contract: either because they were the only ones qualified to the job at hand, or maybe Bubba just liked Dick Cheney, and wanted to do something nice for him Nancy the cynic is right on: they are all are rich, we suspect they all are liars, and they all take vacations on the taxpayers expense (as I had said as well).
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Post by Bob S on Feb 14, 2006 12:25:25 GMT -7
;D If I am not mistaken, we still have troops in Serbia thanks to buffalo Bill Clinton who was a draft-dodger and hated the Military.
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Post by Jaga on Feb 14, 2006 15:43:16 GMT -7
Jaga, where in any of the posts, did anyone suggest even remotely, that they were poor? Piwo, you are right that I should not generalize. Still, Clinton was born poor, Bush was born rich, his grandfather was a senator, his father was a senator and later a president. Bush does not have any idea how the average person lives, Clinton may still have. Besides, Clinton was persecuted all the time when he was in the office with a terrible hatred. Piwo, Bob, intelligence did not start the war in Iraq. Clinton did not start a war in Iraq, you know who started it. You know, who was pushing for it. Bosnia, Serbia - had international support and much less money went there. There was also a direct reason for this. It is Iraq, not even Afghanistan, because Afghanistan was at least justified, just like Serbia/Bosnia were justified- which causes such an international uproar and it costs us big money and almost 3 thousands dead soldiers - all young and good trained. Sometimes I think that this Clinton hatred just makes people to lose any clear vision. You would accuse Clinton on small things but you would not see anything inappropriate in this administration which caused us two BIG wars - at least one unnecessary and a big budget deficit.
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Post by piwo on Feb 14, 2006 17:27:35 GMT -7
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Post by george on Feb 14, 2006 18:37:56 GMT -7
If I am not mistaken, we still have troops in Serbia thanks to buffalo Bill Clinton who was a draft-dodger and hated the Military"
At least Bill Clinton had the gonads to dodge the draft. Geogre Jr had his daddy get him into the "Guards" . Anybody old enough know the Guards was a way to avoid the draft and not get sent to Vietnam. And Georgies daddy did just that for him. Oh, and by the way . Dick Cheny took 5 deferments during Vietnam. 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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