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Post by Jaga on Feb 6, 2009 22:34:55 GMT -7
Volker Pispers history of USA and terrorism 1 of 5
he is also very critical towards German politics
it is in German but with the captions
Karl and Kai should enjoy since they know German pretty well
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Post by pieter on Feb 7, 2009 4:28:20 GMT -7
Very funny, it is simular to Dutch political humor!
I could undersand it very well, as if it is my own language!
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Post by karl on Feb 7, 2009 10:00:45 GMT -7
But, I am not so happy with this Herr Volker Pispers. He is very comical in presentation of his material. But, if one is to Liston very carefully, it is of the mind, the man is a butt! And not so careful with his words.
I have known as a personal close friend, the former port attorney of Chile for some years until his death. Of his name also, that of Allen.
Herr Pispers speaks as of the death of Salvidor Allende {Salvador Isabelino Allende Gossends} as if it was a joke.
It was not a joke, the man was attempting to save his country from devastation of the economic times. As a last resort, he began the process of nationalization of private owned firms.
And took control of the banks for normalization of run-a-way inflation that was devastating the country of Chile.
The problem: Was he took control of two very large foreign owned American firmen that of: Anaconda and Kennecott [copper mining]. And as so, those officials as executives, lodged an official complaint to leading to the then American President that of: Richard Nixon. This man then through his office of responsibility provided directions to the CIA for resolution to this problem.
Un-beknownst to Mr. President Richard Nixon. Senior Allende had of former, provided an electronic surveillance network of: Projekt {Cybersyn} this was an over compass of all over the wire: Telex and computer information.
So as so, the situation was disclosed to the American Government with prospect of becoming a International incident.
Orders were then compiled into action, and the murder of Senior Allende was accomplished.
His death was listed as suicide by rifle, that of an AK-47 then a gift from Fidel Castro. Except, the rifle had not been fired.
And so---The American tax payers taxes at work...
A u-tube:
Karl
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Post by pieter on Feb 8, 2009 3:40:58 GMT -7
Karl,
Do you have a sense of humor. Volker Pispers is a satirical comedian, who uses irony and sarcasm to
wake up his German audience. If you have listened carefully he states the same as you say with
your quotes, which are true! It is good though that you have brought this to our attention
for the folks who dous not understand German.
Here an Allende tribute:
Pieter
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Post by karl on Feb 8, 2009 8:30:31 GMT -7
Karl, Do you have a sense of humor. Volker Pispers is a satirical comedian, who uses irony and sarcasm to wake up his German audience. If you have listened carefully he states the same as you say with your quotes, which are true! It is good though that you have brought this to our attention for the folks who dous not understand German. Here an Allende tribute: Pieter Pieter Thank you for this, it is most appreciated I must say! I am very sorry if appear to not hold a sense of humour..for this would be far from the truth. My sense of concern, was of presentation of Volker Pispers to use this tragedy for projection of him self. For a man, a leader of Chile, lost his life whilst attempting to rebuild his country from economic ruin. In doing so, knew the inherent danger to his career and life by those intimately involved in the struggle for power and for enrichment of them selves at the expense of the people of Chile. And of course, I was not to know this great man of Allende. I only was to be very close friendship with the port Attorney that of Mr. Allen. {Mr. Allen is now deceased and as I respect his privacy in death, wish not to present his 1st name}. As a by and by, Mr. Allen relocated his legal Office to out side of Mexico City. For as there were no telephone service at that location. Mr. Allen was to gain through his office, a citizenship of Mexican for as of to acquire the services of installation of telephone service to his office. It is a strangeworld we live in, for is it not? For in this, Mr. Allen was then to hold four citizenship pass-port. One, he was an American by birth, after the war as a bomber pilot. He was to gain studies in as an mining engineer, lived and worked in Venezuela {his 2nd citizenship gained}, then to live and work in Chile {3rd citizenship gained}, then in Mexico {4th citizenship gained}. A very remarkable man and true friend. The U-Tube you presented, is a very moving and in actual of Senior Allende, it would have been very much so of him. For he was betrayed by those most close to him with their deceit and lies. But, where is the responsibility to fall? For of those of his government, those of a foreign intelligence power with manipulation in co-operation of American private enterprise faced with loss of their private investment whilst in the process of taking of the natural resources out of Chile? Please for not to take my self as an activist, for that is a world away from my self. For also once again, I am very sorry for if perceived of my self as of lacking in humour, for I do try. Karl |
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Post by pieter on Feb 8, 2009 11:40:26 GMT -7
Karl,
I hope I did not offend you, because that was not the purpose of my reaction.
I apreciated your reply. Yes, sometimes stand up comedians or satirical comedians
have an easy look on the world, and I understand therfor your irritation.
Bob S reaction to Jaga's post Why nobody posts? is a good example for how I see Volker Pispers:
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Post by pieter on Feb 8, 2009 12:20:03 GMT -7
To add to my previous post, Germany, Holland, Great-Brittain, France and other
countries have a good tradition and heritage of (radical) left political humor
and culture, feeded by 19th century anti-monarchist and anti-establisment
cartoons, art, literature, journalism (the art of essayism), public speech,
satire (comedy and cabaret), theatre, journals, photojournalism,humoristic
debates and discussion forms, communication, art- and studentmovements,
small political parties, intelligentsia, cultural pubs and debating places,
talented political debates in parlaiments, squares, neighbourhood centres,
open fields and universities.
Even rightwingers liked these anarchistic, socialist (social-democratic),
Marxist, independant leftwing, (general) radical, liberal and democratic
humor. Adn therefor you also got rightwing cabaret and humor,
rightwing intelligentsia, pubs, clubs, studentorganisations and political
humor. In the Middle or centre you had a have non-political, neutral
and non-biased humor too.
The best Dutch, German and British comedians mocked both left
and rightwing politics, governments, parties and developments in
their countries and the world.
Germany has a great cabaret and comedy tradition from the
roaring twenties in Berlin and Hamburg, Austria from
Rotes Wien, Switserland from Bern and Zürich and Holland
and Denmakr from Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague
(Den Haag), Copenhagen and Arhus.
And we all know the British humor from London, Oxford,
Cambridge, Machester and Liverpool!
Here a list of normal and political incorrect comedy:
Germany and Austria:
Dirk Bach Show - Bombenleger
Hanns Dieter Hüsch - Niederrheinische Erklärung
Vicco von Bülow
Anke Engelke
Anke Christina Fischer (née Engelke; born December 21, 1965) is a German comedian, actress and voice-over actress born in Montréal, Quebec, Canada.
Werner Finck
Dieter Hallervorden Ticketverkauf bei der Deutschen Bahn
Evelyn Hamann
Loriot - Die Inhaltsangabe
Hans Werner Olm
Christop Maria Herbst
Hape Kerkeling - Beatrix (plays the Dutch queen, with a funny Dutch-German coal German accent)
Michael Kessler
Piet Klocke
Dieter Hallervorden
Will Smith vs. Stefan Raab funny
Bullyparade & Bastian Pastewka
Dieter Nuhr über Vergesslichkeit & Dummheit
Kaya Yanar und sein Vater isch geb dir gleich
Murat Topal - Basar
Verona Feldbusch - Esther Schweins
Dutch comedy & cabaret:
Hans Liberg INTERNATIONAL I (musical comedy in English)
Toon Hermans - Sinterklaas conference (He doesn't like Sainta Klaus)
Freek de Jonge (mocks the Dutch railways)
Koefnoen - Inge de Bruijn bij Char (mocks American medium)
Jiskefet - Derrick (parody on German police serie Derrick)
Dutch retired German teacher (comedy Van Kooten en de Bie)
Bush at Kopspijkers - You were always on my mind
Blair at Idols
Youp van 't Hek - Lenen, lenen, betalen betalen (about banks: about greed)
Wim Kan (Political comedy)
Najib Amhali Beatbox Most Wanted (peforming as a Dutch farmer)
British:
The Front Fell Off
Not the nine o clock news
A public inquiry - Yes Minister - BBC comedy
French & Saunders- Kate Moss Stylists (Two British comedians and a British top model)
Monty Python Communist Quiz sketch
Smack the Pony - Don't touch the hair
Little Britain
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Post by pieter on Feb 8, 2009 14:23:12 GMT -7
"Scheibenwischer" ("wiper") with Hagen Rether:
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Post by karl on Feb 8, 2009 14:26:09 GMT -7
Pieter
Feel not bad Pieter, for I was/am not offended in what so ever..for I do appreciate your introduction of topics as of this.
What reaction that was only of mine, was simply some bad memories. it is of simply a bit of time for recovery is all.
I will in present and future, let not such actions again come to light..
Karl
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Post by pieter on Feb 8, 2009 15:06:07 GMT -7
The Wild Heroines of Weimar Berlin
3Groschenoper Kanonen-song, 1931
Hermann Leopoldi - Veronika, der Lenz ist da! 1930
Nosferatu 1922- F. W. Murnau
Der Golem (sample)
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Post by pieter on Feb 8, 2009 15:13:07 GMT -7
Karl,
Don't worry, our correspondence made me go into Germany's interesting
history of cabaret, comedy and culture. It was worth while and got me
back to an old good habbit, exploring German culture!
I don't like personal restrictions, censorship, because I like freedom,
debate, and differant opinions and expressions that meet!
Pieter
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