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Post by Jaga on Mar 4, 2006 23:11:53 GMT -7
LONDON - Prime Minister Tony Blair, who wrenched his party from the left to the center of the political spectrum, said he had been inspired to enter politics by a book about socialist icon Leon Trotsky. At a World Book Day event at London's Commonwealth Club earlier this week, Blair said Isaac Deutscher's biography of the Russian communist leader was the book that meant the most to him. Deutscher's three-volume work — "The Prophet Armed," "The Prophet Unarmed" and "The Prophet Outcast" — paints a sympathetic portrait of Trotsky, who helped Vladimir Lenin lead the 1917 Russian revolution but was later driven out by Joseph Stalin. He was murdered by an agent of Stalin in Mexico in 1940. "I might as well make a confession now," Blair said. "There were people who got me very involved in politics. But then there was also a book." Blair said the work "made a very deep impression on me and gave me a love of political biography for the rest of my life." "My association with books has continued through the rest of my adult life but particularly with my children," Blair added. news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060304/ap_on_en_ot/people_blair
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Post by bescheid on Mar 5, 2006 9:52:55 GMT -7
It is so interesting of knowing the history of a great leader and how they were inspired at an early age into their chosen profession. This would be exampled by Young Blair and his reading of the writings of Leon Trotsky. Actually, I had forgotten (ravages of time to the memory) of the writings of this great man, Trotsky. He is very impressive and had written many fine books. Unfortunately, to his early demise in Mexico and a loss to the remainder of the known world. We as people lost a valuable contribution of intellectual resources that was in that man. www.trotsky.net/The above is what I used to refresh my memory by, if the url is of use to you, then it will be of double value for all of us. Charles
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Post by pieter on Mar 6, 2006 6:20:59 GMT -7
Has Trotskyism stil some influence in the world? In France I saw some Trotskyist candidates at the far left side, in their elections. And France has always been a country with a large (Moscow oriented) Communist party. The Trotskyists ofcourse were outside this party. How are Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotski seen in America nowadays? Where there ever influential Communist, Marxist(-leninist) or Socialist parties in the USA. Is there an independant American Social-democracy, or is American Social-democracy or Socialism Liberalism? And in that case is then the Democratic party the Socialist party? From Carl I read ones an article about the problems between Stalinist Communists and Anarchists under the American workers, especially in the New York harbour. Has Trotskyinsm also followers in the USA, is the Fourth international active there?
Pieter
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Post by bescheid on Mar 6, 2006 10:53:59 GMT -7
Pieter
You have asked a question that due to my living habits, both natural and learned. my interface with others in common social contact is very limited. In other words, I tend to melt into a crowd and disappear.
Although, as a reflection of what I see, hear and observe. The content of conversations and discussions depend very much on the social status, intellectual maturity and economic level of people in a given area.
Near the or around university students of political history and science, the never ending arguments and discussions of no or little consequence is prominent.
If the topic or subject is promoted in one of many coffee houses (star buck) populated by sales people, students on break, house wives escaping for a few minutes out of the house, shoppers taking a break, females talking between them selves of every thing a man does not want to hear, it is all there.
Except: Philosophy, subjects of the Prussian pair, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, or, Lenin, trotskie, or even Hegel. As a rule, working American adults, do not discuss these subjects. It was a long past subject studied while in the course of their educational experience, but, once that is past. The subjects of conversations will primarily be of their present and currant situations. Their work, their issues, money, family, work, their toys (autos, motorcycles, boats) all the things that they want.
Educational instructors tend to dress down, wearing what is comfortable, yet easily convertible to jacket and tie (meetings). Construction people wear what they want, it is good not to mess with them as they are composed of many different mind sets and reactions. Minor supervisors wear the plaid dress shirt and slacks with foot wear commensurate with their floor duties. Higher profile management people on a short escape away from the office, wear good to excellent suits of a good cut and fit, commensurately with excellent quality of foot wear (high polish). Sales people are a hodge podge of what ever, they generally will wear a comfortable shoe with a variable degree of polish.
These above people as a rule, do not discuss those subjects of their long past studies of political science and philosophy.
Personally, Those subjects relating to the long past masters of their craft (Karl Marx-Engels) Trotskie Hegel, their diagrams of political science/philosophy were worked out as a working blue print of manipulation of common thought. Their work are even today, excellent tools for understanding and working with common issues.
Our world today, is not complicated, but logical. It is the confusion of issues that become illogical because insufficient information has not been gained on a given subject. With the lack of or understanding of information, this in-turn, leads to confusion and fear, fear of the unknown. It is a natural evolvement of our intellectual make up. Our minds have a need to know, and if insufficient information is given to it (our minds) then it (our minds) will tend to replace those gaps of knowledge with self manufactured information.
This is the basis of fear: fear of the dark, fear of attack (currant religious Islamic group of nasties). Fear is usually composed to generally two entities: one being from a past experience, the other is from lack of currant and accurate information.
These are all tools of a useful nature if used in good faith and for a practical purpose. These being the tools of understanding and information.
In as much of a strong Communist organization in the US. There are many organizations, Communism is only one of them.
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Mar 6, 2006 12:08:40 GMT -7
Trotsky may be an intelligent man but I am not sure that I would really like him to be a leader of any country. He may be a bit better than Stalin, the slaughterer, but not better than Lenin - who is also responsible for million deaths.
All these figly ideological leaders are very dangerous on the top.
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Post by sciwriter on Mar 6, 2006 13:55:59 GMT -7
Bush's neocon: Wolfowitz was reportedly influenced by Trotsky and Saddam by Stalin. YecH!!!
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Post by sciwriter on Mar 6, 2006 14:38:28 GMT -7
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