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Post by jimpres on May 19, 2006 6:43:42 GMT -7
Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical “standard Islamic garments.”
The law, which must still be approved by Iran’s “Supreme Guide” Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.
Iran’s roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth…
The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
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Post by jimpres on May 19, 2006 6:45:35 GMT -7
Further info on this: According to Ahmadinejad, the new Islamic uniforms will establish “visual equality” for Iranians as they prepare for the return of the Hidden Imam…
The new law imposes a total ban on wearing neckties and bow-ties which are regarded as “symbols of the Cross.” Will Iranian Christians be allowed to wear them, nevertheless? No one knows…
One remaining problem is to decide the age at which girls should wear the uniforms. At present the hijab is mandatory from the age of six. But some of Ahmadinejad’s advisers want to reduce that to four…
“Our aim is to make sure that every Muslim, wherever he or she happens to be on this Earth, is a living and walking symbol of Islam,” says Pourharandi.
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Post by bescheid on May 19, 2006 8:28:23 GMT -7
Well, I tend to believe you have it: 1938 once again. First the seporation of people by religious/ethnic race by visual means, then by economic supression, and then who knows.
The beginnings of a national means of Antisemitism "Antijudaismus/Antichristlich and Iranian version of Nürnberger Gesetze (Nuremberg laws).
For what ever the reason/means, it means the same, systamatic seporation for eventual removal of a specific portion of the general population.
Withen the eyes of natonal control though. It makes sense. The enforcement/enticement of wearing uniform clothing, creates and maintains a national unity and strength through numbers and eventually, unity of convection to a specified ideal.
Charles
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Post by sciwriter on May 19, 2006 9:24:32 GMT -7
And next-burning of Iranian parliament and Kristallnacht? Carl
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Post by pieter on May 19, 2006 9:54:47 GMT -7
Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical “standard Islamic garments.” The law, which must still be approved by Iran’s “Supreme Guide” Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims. Iran’s roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth… The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Jim/Bescheid, Yes, this reminds me of the thirtees in Nazi Germany and the period of 1939-1945. The yellow star of David with "Jude", "Jood" ( www.vecip.com/default.asp?onderwerp=533 ). In the perspective of "NEVER AGAIN", the world should not tolerate and so not accept this religious and ethnic segregation, which is very dangerous. The world knew what the result of ethnic segregation via signs or hate propaganda was, the Holocaust (1939-1945), Cambodja, Ruanda and Sudan today. I hop that the USA and Europe keep their back (bone) straight in their policy towards Iran. Western newspapers should write about it, so that it is known. Pieter
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Post by jimpres on May 19, 2006 11:16:56 GMT -7
Pieter,
Lots of messages on the 'blogs' I have not heard it on the radio or TV yet. And we will see what the American newpapers do with it. I hope we have learned from history and will not let it repeat itself. When they start buring bibles in Iran it surely will be kristalnacht.
Jim
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Post by pieter on May 19, 2006 11:29:16 GMT -7
Pieter, Lots of messages on the 'blogs' I have not heard it on the radio or TV yet. And we will see what the American newpapers do with it. I hope we have learned from history and will not let it repeat itself. When they start buring bibles in Iran it surely will be kristalnacht. Jim Exsactly the same overhere Jim, haven't read bout this or heardabout it in the Dutch written press, radio or Television. Only internal political affairs, the Ayaan Hirsi Ali case continues to bother her party and the Dutch society. And etc. I have to check my newspaper this evening on foreign news. I think I send a link of your message to Dutch newspapers. Do you have links or URL' s to the 'blogs'. I surely hope that a 21th century Kristalnacht can be avoided.
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Post by jimpres on May 19, 2006 11:42:08 GMT -7
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Post by jimpres on May 19, 2006 11:51:15 GMT -7
Pieter,
I am now hearing about this on talk radio in California.
Jim
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Post by bescheid on May 19, 2006 13:03:35 GMT -7
Pieter
Ich hatte nicht sogar bis dieser moment,von gehört. Polizeilches Durchgangerslager Amersfort im Niederlandern. Ein was für schreckliches ding!
Ich las und war noch einmal, überraschung sehr an der mühelosigkeit des ablesens der Holländer,ja danke für Ihre anwesenheit hier und von Ihrer Klugheit in diesen Angelegenheiten.
Mit vielem Respekt
Charles
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Post by pieter on May 19, 2006 18:39:56 GMT -7
Experts doubt reports that Jews will have to wear badges in Iran By Haaretz Service The Iranian government committed in the past to consult with all ethnic groups in the country before legislating a law requiring mandatory clothing for each group, Haaretz learned Friday. Earlier Friday, Canada's National Post reported that Iranian expatriates living in Canada confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament passed a law this week that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear colored badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims. According to the Post, Iran's 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on their clothes. Christians would have to adorn red badges and Zoroastrians would be have to wear blue strips of cloth. To go into effect, the law would have to be approved by Iran's supreme leader and highest authority, Ali Khamenei. According to Meir Jawadnafar, an Israeli expert on the Iranian government, Tehran has not yet determined the nature of Muslim dress that will be required in the country. Therefore, he says, the claim that it was decided that Iran's Jews would be forced to wear yellow badges on their clothing is baseless. He said the Iranian government has no intention of forcing ethnic groups to wear specific colors. Later Friday, the Post published a story quoting several experts casting doubt on its initial report, as well as a reaction from the Iranian embassy in Ottawa, which denied Tehran had passed such a law. The Post quotes Sam Kermanian, of the U.S.-based Iranian-American Jewish Federation, who said he had contacted members of the Jewish community in Iran - including the lone Jewish member of the Iranian parliament - and they had denied that any such measures had been put in place. Mr. Kermanian told the Post that the subject of "what to do with religious minorities" came up during debates leading up to the passing of the dress code law. "It is possible that some ideas might have been thrown around," he said. "But to the best of my knowledge the final version of the law does not demand any identifying marks by the religious minority groups." According to the Post, The Simon Wiesenthal Center has written to United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan urging the international community to pressure Iran to drop the measure. "This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis. "There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this." Bernie Farber, the chief executive of the Canadian Jewish Congress, told the Post he was "stunned" by the measure. "We thought this had gone the way of the dodo bird, but clearly in Iran everything old and bad is new again," he said. "It's state-sponsored religious discrimination." Leonid Nevzlin, chairman of the board of trustees of Beth Hatefutsoth, the Museum of the Jewish Diaspora in Tel Aviv, called on Jews of the world to wear yellow badges to identify themselves with Iranian Jews. "Iran is implementing Hitler's methods and constitutes a threat to the free world," Nevzlin said. Some Israeli commentators suggested the story still needed to be fully verified, pointing to the fact that the source of the story was Iranian exiles strongly opposed to the regime ruling their country. www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/717902.html
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Post by jimpres on May 19, 2006 18:47:38 GMT -7
Lets hope it is a few disgrunteled Iranians and not Policy.
Jim
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Post by bescheid on May 20, 2006 9:23:12 GMT -7
My self also with Jim, it is my sincer hope that the Iranian council will by pass that measure. It is a hardship on the people and also a focul point of condemnation from the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
In light of the currant political situations that Iran is currantly dealing with, it would seem to be unwise to creat another un-needed dust storm.
Charles
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Post by sciwriter on May 20, 2006 12:34:46 GMT -7
The article below reflects the fanatic nature of Nazism. This mind set is what allowed the Nazis to so easily incorporate Muslims into the SS and the Wehrmacht as horse-mounted fighting units. And that was even before the creation of the modern state of Israel. It includes Bosnian Muslims recruited by Grand Mufti of Jerusalem: www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a8ff1c12efe.htmFrom an e-mail. Carl: Friday, May 19, 2006 3:57 p.m. EDT Iran: Jews, Christians Must Wear Badges In a move reminiscent of the Nazis forcing Jews to wear a Star of David insignia, Iran's parliament has reportedly passed a law requiring Jews, Christians and other religious minorities to wear color-coded badges to identify them as non-Muslims. The law would also set a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear "standard Islamic garments." The law, which must be approved by Iran's "Supreme Leader" Ali Khamenei before taking effect, requires Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes. Christians would be forced to wear red badges and Zoroastrians would wear blue cloth, according to Canada's National Post. "This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis." Bernie Farber, chief executive of the Canadian Jewish Congress, agrees. "There are some frightening parallels here," he told the National Post. "We thought this had gone the way of the dodo bird, but clearly in Iran everything old and bad is new again. It's state-sponsored religious discrimination." The new law was drafted two years ago, but lingered in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the urging of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly described the Holocaust as a myth and earlier this year announced Iran would host a conference to re-examine the Nazis' "Final Solution." Ali Behroozian, an Iranian exile living in Toronto, said the new law would make religious minorities immediately identifiable and allow Muslims to avoid contact with non-Muslims. Iran's small pockets of Jewish, Christian and other religious minorities "have all been persecuted for a while, but these new dress rules are going to make things worse for them," he told the Post. Australia's Prime Minister John Howard told reporters about the law: "Anything of that kind would be totally repugnant to civilized countries, if it's the case, and something that would just further indicate to me the nature of this regime. It would be appalling." The Simon Wiesenthal Center has written to U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan calling on the international community to bring pressure on Iran to drop the law. "The world should not ignore this," said Rabbi Hier. "The world ignored Hitler for many years. He was dismissed as a demagogue. They said he'd never come to power. "And we were all wrong."
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Post by Jaga on May 20, 2006 12:42:10 GMT -7
This law is very peculiar and very strange. It seems that this is done just to alienate the rest of the world
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