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Post by kaima on Mar 31, 2010 6:03:19 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Mar 31, 2010 8:38:39 GMT -7
Kai As a reasonable person, I do understand the consternation of Apple in this instance of morality as an issue. But, we needs be to look at the world through the eyes of apple for what is offensive to what is not offensive. For Apple, in their eyes is profits gained through sales of their products to the consuming public. With this in mind, is hand and hand, the corporate mind set. A product for all people, engineered for use by all family members of every household for all ages and income level. A universal product for universal people. This is well and fine, so be it to be. The issue though, will arise very sharply when of this American Corporate mind set, is exported over seas as a foreign invasion of their particular morality code, in direct conflict with established morality codes of another. It is simply a bulling matter of establishing over another, their brand of morality. On the other side of the Roman coin though: This is more then a morality issue commensurate with corporate bullying, it blows back into the face as a individual right of choice. If perhaps one person wishes not to use of the function of the Ipod in question, then so bit, for that is the individual right of choice of that particular person. If perhaps another person wishes to exercise their person rights to exercise the full function of this particular electronic device, then so be to them to do so. Once the product of the manufacturer is placed on the market place, then it is to the consumer as to what purpose this product is placed in service to do. This thing of manufacturing bulling must be stopped. For this is not the 1st instance of an American manufacturer entering into our market place with demands to cater to their whims. www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/18/google_germany/paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-german-news-groups-microsoft-unit-file-anti-trust-complaints-against-go/Karl
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Post by kaima on Mar 31, 2010 16:02:54 GMT -7
Karl,
It is a good thing you know me well enough to know I have tongue in cheek (am not 100% serious) when I poke fun at "High German Culture".
Yes, it is difficult for Americans to see some of our unfair international practices, or the legitimacy in how we subsidize Boeing or our farmers for exports. I was just reading how our highly subsidized farm exports have killed a lot of farming in Haiti, aggravating their migration from the country into the cities. Desmond Tutu was also speaking of how US exports of dirt cheap foods killed the farm culture in Africa. Our policies may be good for our profits, but they do hurt the third world!
A realistic world-wide trade agreement would be great!
I just made a second visit to my bank trying to tell the clerk why we failed to log in yesterday as she was 'teaching' me how to on-line bank. I discovered later that there are two choices per key, upper case and lower case, you do not use shift, and you must click on the specific case you wish. I was clicking on the key anywhere. And my "teacher" never knew or noticed. I then confirmed that they do not have a system where I can make a single electronic payment, as say an 'electronic check'.
I could do that 20 years ago in Germany!!! The clerk was offended that I would point out how backwards the American bank system can be. So I have to run up a complicated payment system simply to pay my monthly credit card, as it is not associated with the bank where I have most of my money & accounts.
Hmmm.... this East Coast credit union is associated with one up here - I see their building across the street from the library (where I am working, preparing the netbook for my travels & online banking). I think I must stop over and talk with them!
Kai
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Post by kaima on Mar 31, 2010 16:03:47 GMT -7
PS Karl, I like the way the writer referred to Google from the European perspective: "the ad broker and sometime search firm."
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Post by karl on Mar 31, 2010 18:02:00 GMT -7
Karl, It is a good thing you know me well enough to know I have tongue in cheek (am not 100% serious) when I poke fun at "High German Culture". Yes, it is difficult for Americans to see some of our unfair international practices, or the legitimacy in how we subsidize Boeing or our farmers for exports. I was just reading how our highly subsidized farm exports have killed a lot of farming in Haiti, aggravating their migration from the country into the cities. Desmond Tutu was also speaking of how US exports of dirt cheap foods killed the farm culture in Africa. Our policies may be good for our profits, but they do hurt the third world! A realistic world-wide trade agreement would be great! I just made a second visit to my bank trying to tell the clerk why we failed to log in yesterday as she was 'teaching' me how to on-line bank. I discovered later that there are two choices per key, upper case and lower case, you do not use shift, and you must click on the specific case you wish. I was clicking on the key anywhere. And my "teacher" never knew or noticed. I then confirmed that they do not have a system where I can make a single electronic payment, as say an 'electronic check'. I could do that 20 years ago in Germany!!! The clerk was offended that I would point out how backwards the American bank system can be. So I have to run up a complicated payment system simply to pay my monthly credit card, as it is not associated with the bank where I have most of my money & accounts. Hmmm.... this East Coast credit union is associated with one up here - I see their building across the street from the library (where I am working, preparing the netbook for my travels & online banking). I think I must stop over and talk with them! Kai Dear Kai It is a blessing of your presence here and now! For my English is highly excellent, thereupon though, my English has but some many frailties. But, I do understand you very well and clear I was of much consternation and confusion of your bank on line issues! I stand to wonder of where these people learnt their skills? For 1, I have as a person, held great respect for the American banking system with use of the many tools available for consumer use of computer access for their needs of access.. My daughter Carol is of the banking industry and of course, operates the business of that built by my son Paul. And that is in corporate and private realistate properties exchange. My self, I am a no-body of Little consequent. For I know only of the business as presented that either falls into my lap {desk} or of the person given the hot rock to pass off upon, and that usually is to my self. It is of great consternation of the problems of banking tossed upon your self, for this is foolish. For it is to the responsibility of the banking system for how ever, to encourage and promote their service to all customers, for this is their responsibility as a public service. And this system of customer service, is what keeps the banking system alive...For without the deposits made to an account. Is directly forwarded to assets owned by most any bank. For without these accounts as service, in so much as assets, will be directly credited to that particular banking account as serviced for commercial assets. What above referenced to: Is the whole sale purchase to the bank in question, monies for loan with collateral of collection in case of default of out gone monies in loans. In small: What this means in actual, is the banking branch of this issue. Has upfront assets, to match of loans outstanding. For this reason, the credit rating of most any banking branch of the primary. Has option of lower credit borrowing to client with perception of gains in profit. {the high end of credit rating of the bank in question, will also define the percentage rating of that bank. This in turn is rated as to the margin of profit the bank of question will make, and this against risk of default.} In short as of the individual person. The credit rating as establish by their personal credit history, will determine the interest rate of loan as received. The lower of credit rating, the high most part they {corporate is same as individual, for both have an identity} must pay in total, this would be same number count as {Interest+loan= amount payed to satisfy the monthly payment. Until completion of loan payments payed out. I was much surprised, but should not of been, of your troubles with the particular banking you have as a customer. For it is them to insure your satisfaction as the foundation of customer survice.. For the present, I am not of knowledge as sufficient, to know of the American system in banking and seriving of accounts out standing. My cheque is electronically forwarded to which ever banking system to handle. This includes rate of exchange inclusion of the account, and insurance against fraud. It is simple, but effective. In the event, the account is accessed with-out my personal approval, then it becomes an incident relating directly of what ever security option is to the bank in question. For of your situation as outstanding with your banking institution, I am some what confused as to their passing off their responsibility to you as a customer and depositor...
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