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Post by bescheid on Nov 1, 2007 8:06:46 GMT -7
Question: what shall we do with you? answer: Nothing Charles No, you got it wrong! The question goes: What shall we do with the drunken sailor? Do I look like a drunken sailor??? Hence, can I get another set of questions, please? Hmmm, no Pawian, it appears to be an Arab {Bedouin} Possibly Jordanian judging by the darkness of his coffee {Gahwa Saada}. As this sailer is of Arab and more then likely will have at close, his ship. For this is the question: What is the typen ship he {Arab} will sail? And as such, of the many variations of their ships, they all share a common system of sail for their power from the wind. What would you suppose this common sail system would be? {I would not of course ask of the common construction method of their ship as directly also of that of the viking dragon ships.} Charles
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Post by Pawian on Nov 4, 2007 2:47:30 GMT -7
What is the typen ship he {Arab} will sail? THiS!: Didn`t you know that camels are called the ships of the desert? The HUMP! OR TWO HUMPS!
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Post by bescheid on Nov 4, 2007 9:25:05 GMT -7
What is the typen ship he {Arab} will sail? THiS!: Didn`t you know that camels are called the ships of the desert? The HUMP! OR TWO HUMPS! Very good Pawian, you are an expert of the ships of the desert. But, a one hump camel is African and Middle East. Whilst the 2 hump camel is Asian. Not sure of the temperament of the Asian varieties, but the African animals possess very foul temperament, stinks and is very very tall. Charles
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Post by Pawian on Nov 4, 2007 11:43:43 GMT -7
Very good Pawian, you are an expert of the ships of the desert. But, a one hump camel is African and Middle East. Whilst the 2 hump camel is Asian. Not sure of the temperament of the Asian varieties, but the African animals possess very foul temperament, stinks and is very very tall. Charles The place of origin doesn`t matter. There are deserts both in Africa and Asia!
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Post by freetobe on Nov 4, 2007 19:38:28 GMT -7
Pawian, What do I know about addiction treatment? 27 years as an addiction counselor should be enough to qualify as knowing something about the subject. No derision intended, just trying to interject some levity.
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Post by kaima on Nov 4, 2007 21:53:14 GMT -7
freetobe chickadee, it is in the 'young stalin' thread that I said, in part, "Who was talking of the evils of alcohol? Perhaps alcohol would have led him (Hitler) to live a wasted live in the back streets of Vienna, and another 80 years later another wastrel (Bush) to live a wasted life in the backwaters of Texas, protecting the world from both."
Hitler was an upstanding fellow. He didn't run around with loose women, he was a vegetarian and didn't touch alcohol. Bush was an alcoholic and conquered the addiction, so I guess he qualifies as a recovering alcoholic.
There would be a lot more people alive if both of them had been heavily practicing alcoholics and stayed dead drunk in the street gutters. So there are good things about alcohol, even to excess!
Kai
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Post by Pawian on Nov 5, 2007 1:05:04 GMT -7
Pawian, What do I know about addiction treatment? 27 years as an addiction counselor should be enough to qualify as knowing something about the subject. Did you manage to avoid acquiring the addiction yourself? It often happens in families that a spouse, usually a man, infects his wife with alcoholism, although in the beginning she abstains from alcohol. Yes, yes, some guys got too serious.
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Post by freetobe on Nov 5, 2007 20:10:30 GMT -7
Pawian, Where do you get these ideas? There is no definitive answer for addiction's cause. Most researchers working in the field believe that addiction has a genetic connection. Treatment is difficult, relapses are common. The goal is to extend the periods of abstinence between relapse and the hope is the abstinence will become permanent. This is an over simplification, but probably the essence of what treatment is about. Addiction counselors are not typically addiicts themselves, but I have known some who are in recovery and working in the field.
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Post by bescheid on Nov 6, 2007 9:08:58 GMT -7
Pawian, Where do you get these ideas? There is no definitive answer for addiction's cause. Most researchers working in the field believe that addiction has a genetic connection. Treatment is difficult, relapses are common. The goal is to extend the periods of abstinence between relapse and the hope is the abstinence will become permanent. This is an over simplification, but probably the essence of what treatment is about. Addiction counselors are not typically addiicts themselves, but I have known some who are in recovery and working in the field. Freetobe Your reply is that of a professional. I have heard of the genetic connection in alcoholism. I do agree with your assessment in the over-simplification in description, for each persons life experience is different, with similarities in situation. What is your opinion of the area of genetics inheritance of family disease? I realize this is a very complicated question, but I would with anticipation look forward to your comments in this area. I have little vested interest as a personal matter, just curios and an opportunity of addition to my knowledge bank. Charles
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Post by Pawian on Nov 6, 2007 14:37:00 GMT -7
Pawian, Where do you get these ideas? From everywhere. When I am not sure or just curious of something, I always ask questions, even if they sound too inquisitive. I hope you don`t mind? That`s interesting. I tend to disagree. It might be true in case of homosexualism, but here in Poland a lot of people are addicted to strong liqours and it looks like nobody is immune, e.g., non-drinking parents have an alcoholic son etc, so the theory about genetic nature of alcoholism can be a bit strained. PS. I have just checked some Polish sites about it. The main stress is put on social, psychological and even spiritual reasons. The genetic reasons are mentioned too but not as leading ones. Some researcher found out that 60% of addicts come from non-addicted families. So there is danger.
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Post by freetobe on Nov 6, 2007 23:30:49 GMT -7
Charles and Pawian, As I mentioned previously, there is no definitive answer as to the cause of addiction. If there were, then science might be able to provide a cure. As to why some children of non addictive parents become addicts, one theory is that diseases that have genetic basis may skip a generation and then reoccur. I am not a researcher so I can't comment on the validity of their findings. Based on the anecdotal evidence gathered from the addicts in treatment, I am inclined to agree that genetics plays a large part in addictive disease. The subject is too complex for an internet chat session and I would prefer not to offer opinions, but I thank you for your interest.
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