Relationship British and Dutch Royal families

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It almost seems as if for a person is to marry into royalty is akin to a dream, but in reality, it may be the opposite if not to think only in reality. For the duties of each royal position is very much a complicated and stressful day to each their responsible duty to the people they serve.

For as above, into the British Royality is laden with complications as such, only by the Queens {now Kings} permission.

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Karl

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Karl,

It is true, as a Monarch you are always in the spotlights, you have your ceremonial duties, you have the functions of a president, like the German president, but not like the president of the USA, Russia or France. Like the president of Italy, Poland, Israel or Austria.

As a monarch you have to guard Royal Monarchistic traditions and customs, you have to live accordin to a strict etiquette and behavioral standards. From one side you have little political power in the democratic sense of your function, institution (the Monarchy) and decision power. You are not the absolutist Monarch of the past. The prime minister, the mininsters of the Cabinet and both the government coalition parties and the opposition political parties have more power in National (Dutch) parliament, in the European parliament, in the Provinciale Staten (the provincial councils), the provincial parliament and legislative assembly in each of the 12 provinces of the Netherlands and the Muncipalities with it's Mayors, aldermen and alderwomen and powerful city councils with it's councoillors.

But in the same time you have another power. The King and Queen are loved by many Dutch citizens, others in more moderate way are fond of them and respect them, and admired by many fellow Monarchs, fellow Kings and Queens, and presidents of Republics, and many foreign heads of state, other kind of Monarchs, sheikhs, Mahārāja's, religious leaders, musicians, arists and development aid workers and environmental protection people. They are rejected by Dutch Republicans, some anti-Orange Monarchy Rightwing Populists who prefere a Dutch Republic and Neo-Nazi and Neo-Fascist figures and from the other side by some leftist Anarchists (Squater Autonomen), Marxists, Communists, Socialists, Republican leftwimg liberals (in the Classical European 19th century liberalism sense) and some leftwing Libertarians (whom share with anarchists their aversion towards the state).

King Alexander has sometimes hard times in the calculating, egalitarian, anti-elitist, everyone is equal, and for some reason, Dutch people don't like it when people stand out too much. I (Pieter) personally don't like that Dutch mentality of egalitarian levelling. Standing out is very difficult, because people like it when your normal and equal to them. I contrast I like people whom stand outwith something, excel in something and are better at that then other people. I heard various Dutch people who moved to the States whom were ambitious, entrepreneurial, creative and had succes, that they liked the American mentality which ecnourage you to stand out.

Maybe Karl you have the same equality, egalitarian, levelling culture in Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and maybe not. You can judge about that.

In the Netherlands like in the United Kingdom, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, the Swedish Kingdom and the Kingdom of Norway of course the Monarchs are not the equals of the other citizens of these nations. The stand above other people and saying derogatory things about them, insulting them or actively trying to remove them from their
ceremonial power position is punishable by law. People are free to be Republicans, Anarchists, anti-monarchist communists, socialists or National Populists, but they can't insult the head of the state and have limits what they may say about the king and queen and what they may not say.

King Willem-Alexander van Oranje-Nassau (1967) has an interesting family line, his father was the German Claus van Amsberg (1926-2002) and his mother the Dutch queen Beatrix van Oranje-Nassau (1938), his German grandparents were his German paternal grandfather Klaus Felix von Amsberg (German: Klaus Felix Friedrich Leopold Gabriel Archim Julius August von Amsberg; 1 September 1890 – 19 December 1953) was a member of the German Niederer Adel (lower nobility) (In World War I Claus Felix von Amsberg fought as a German officer in the Imperial German Army at the side of General Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck in German East Africa.), and Willem Alexanders grandmother was Baroness Gösta von dem Bussche-Haddenhausen (26 January 1902 – 13 June 1996), daughter of Baron Georg von dem Bussche-Haddenhausen and Baroness Gabriele von dem Bussche-Ippenburg. His grandparents on the Dutch side in the Royal House of van Oranje-Naussau were the Dutch Queen Juliana van Oranje-Nassau (1909-2004) and her husband, the German Prince Bernhard van Lippe-Biesterfeld (1911-2004). And if you go back in the family line you see a lot of German names with a German nobility heritage; Bernitt, von Passow, von Bulow, von Gutschmid, von Bassewitz, von Vieregge, Rahlenbeck, von dem Bussche-Haddenhausen, von Salviati, von dem Bussche Ippenburg, Franz von Chelius (1821-1899), Leopold von Wartensleben (1818-1846) (in Dutch also van Wartensleben) (the Prussian lieutenant general, Alexander, Graf von Wartensleben (1818-1846)), husbant of Mathilde Halbach (1822-1848), Adold van Cramm (1812-1879), Ernst Eberhard van Sierstorpff-Driburg (1813-1855) , Karoline von Vincke (1822-1870), Paul Frederik von Mecklenburg-Schwerin ((1800-1842: Großherzog von Mecklenburg im Landesteil Mecklenburg-Schwerin.), Friederike Wilhelmine Alexandrine Marie Helene Prinzessin von Preußen (* 23. Februar 1803 in Berlin; † 21. April 1892 in Schwerin), eine preußische Prinzessin und durch Heirat Erbgroßherzogin von Mecklenburg-Schwerin. And Franz Friedrich Adolf (Adolf) "Prinz" von Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt formerly Schwarzburg-Rudolstadt (1801-1875) and Princess Mathilde von Schönburg-Waldenburg (1826-1914), with a few Dutch, French and Russian exceptions with names like Willem II van Oranje-Nassau (1792-1849), Elisabeth van Malortie-Bimont (1802-1862), Marie Minet (1830-1896), Karoline van Vincke (1822-1870), Anna Romanov (1795-1865), George Victor van Waldeck-Pyrmont (1831-1893) and Helena van Nassau (1831-1888).

King Alexander and Queen Maxima have to walk on a thin line. A lot of citizens believe that the Royal House and Monarchy costs a lot of money, money the Dutch taxpayer has to pay. Question is of course if a chosen president with a presidential Palace is less expensive at home and traveling abroad.

King Alexander and Queen Maxima have symbols as the Royal representatives and the business card of the Netherlans abroad. They have a sort of ceremonial and light (mild) diplomatic role, have their international royal connections with many or most of the Monarchies, princedoms and Presidents of Democratic republics. Also do they have connections in a diplomatic way with president of autocratic states, despotes and dictators. Out of duty and not out of friendship of course. King Alexander and Queen Maxima are important for Dutch companies, Multi Nationals, investors, Business bankers, real estate developers, entrepreneurs, designers, architects and firms abroad. They have an important Financial and economical role. King Alexanders specialities are Water management and diplomacy. He learned a lot of the advice and example of his mother Queen Beatrix. Maxima brought some Argentinian-Basque flair and Fashion and style in the rather stiff Dutch Royal House. She is a Micro management expert and had worked for the Deutsche Bank in New York.

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History proved that there were strong Republican and anti-Monarchist sentiments and riots in the Netherlands





In 1965, Beatrix became engaged to the German aristocrat Claus von Amsberg, a diplomat working for the German Foreign Office. There was a massive protest on their wedding day in Amsterdam on 10 March 1966. Prince Claus had served in the Hitler Youth and the Wehrmacht and therefore was easily associated with German Nazism. Protests included slogans like "Claus 'raus!" (Claus out!) and "Mijn fiets terug" ("Return my bicycle" – a reference to German soldiers confiscating Dutch bicycles during WWII). A group of Provos threw a smoke bomb at the Golden Coach, resulting in a street battle with the police.


During the Coronation day of Queen Beatrix Amsterdam was a war zone between Dutch riot police and Anarchist squaters


Patriots vs Orangists in the Netherlands

The patriots were citizens of the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands who wanted to stimulate democratization at the end of the 18th century and to put a stop to the absolutism, as they saw it, of a failing stadtholder William V, Prince of Orange-Nassau. They demanded reforms in the administration, began to arm themselves and, over the years, they urged, among other things, a democratic election of the vroedschap, the city council, in more and more cities. In 1786 and 1787 the conflict between the patriots and progenitors or orangists (supporters of the stadtholder-prince of Orange) escalated to such an extent that fighting broke out and a short civil war raged. A Prussian invasion in September–October 1787 subsequently brought about the Orange Restoration, after which the stadtholder system could be continued for another seven years. Thousands of patriots fled to France and only returned after the successful revolutionary French campaign in the Netherlands (1792–1795), in which some took part in the Batavian Legion. The years 1780–1787 in which the patriots dominated Dutch politics is sometimes referred to as the Patriot period.

The term patriots is also used for related movements in other countries, see 'Patriots elsewhere'.

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The British and Dutch Queens in 1982 in London

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When the War Queen Wilhelmina abdicted and Queen Juliana was coronated

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I met Maxima at a press event in Arnhem and she told my female colleague that every day everywhere she goes there are the photographers, camera teams and flashlights. It is part of my daily life and I have to deal with it if I like it or not. She is not Princes Diana, but she surely is an unusual member of the Dutch Royal family with her Argentinian style, charm, warmth and international orientation and intelligence.

Queen Máxima is on a working visit to the United States. On the first day in California she visits San Francisco, where she takes a look at the gay district of Castro. She spoke a few words in her native language.

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Queen Maxima in a Spanish





Maybe Karl can understand her Argentinian Spanish.

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