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Post by pieter on Jan 20, 2008 4:24:52 GMT -7
I especially liked the exellent self portraits of the painter Schulz. He knew how to draw and paint!
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Post by pieter on Jan 20, 2008 4:55:01 GMT -7
Pawian/Livia,
The same feeling and words are connected to your Krakow images as my words about the Warsaw images! In april 2004 I was in Krakow with Dutch, German and Polish students of my (former) art academy in Arnhem, and we had a great time back then in the wonderful, ancient and Modern (in the same time) Krakow.
It was a wonderful spring with mild weather, and we enjoyed staying at an old East-Block stile hotel at the other side of the river (outside the centre), near bussy roads, peoples neighbourhoods (working class flats), with old cars, transport routes (trucks driving by day and night) with exellent trams and busses to the city and a very large Tesco super market next door. At night and in the early morning I heard the trucks, small busses with personel of companies, the public transport and the middle class cars and ordinairy cars rusking to their appointments and their engagements.
We walked a lot that week, and I remembered seeing parts of old Poland I remembered from the eightees and seventees (Peoples republic nostalgia of a spoiled Westerner, I can't help it), old inner squares of Claccist or Jugendstil appartment blocks, the probably well know Vegetarian restaurant with young Polish girls and female students and older people. The Jazz pubs with live music in their basements, the Italian restaurants, the traditional Polish restaurant that only the Dutch-Polish boy (both parents came from Poznan, and he speaks Polish and Dutch fleuntly without an accent) could find, and the exellent alternative New wave like student dancing, which was tracked down by this same "Polish" guide into Non-tourist Polish cultural life of Krakow. We danced there until late at night. Some naive Dutch fellow travelers lost some of their belongings there and in the hotel, because they did not watched their belongings and did not locked their hotel doors. The last night we halted a Polish Taxi driver, who drove an old Polonez, he did not want to drive the six of us, but we mildly forced him to take us (officially he could only take three passengers). One of the girls fainted all the time, because she had some sort of being tired disease, so it was a funny scene, because I had to constantly take her from the floor and carry here into the cab and into the hotel. I wonder if the Polish recption guy thought we had drugged her? It was a week of a lot of fun, culture, art, and I especially liked Bunkier, Kazemierz, the river, the Krakow parks, boulevards, University buildings (I read that 126.000 of the 800.000 Krowians are students, so the Jagelionian university must be one of the largests in Europe). There was something special about this former Polish capital, this ancient Polish Gothic, Roman and Renaissance city, with Polish and Habsburg influences.
I have to say that I liked Krakow more than Warsaw, although family roots are in Warsaw, and Warsaw is an exiting expanding Modern city.
Maybe it's because Krakow is the cultural art of Poland, a city of Polish intelligentsia, Polish poets, writers, artists, theatre, music festivals, architecture, sciences, research institutes.
I noticed Modern Krakow at the outskirts of the city which looked like financial Amsterdam South, or the industrial and trade cities of my country Rotterdam and Eindhoven.
Modern company and business buildings with Modern parking lots, modern infrstructure
(good roads and highways), with freshly dressed and energetic businessmen- and women, researchers, ICT-people, bankers, lawjers, fiscal experts and other sorts of people.
It made me aware that next to the historical and touristic facade there was a vibrant
and developping economy, local financial market and new Industries.
I also read about the cooperation and exchange between the university and the
local economy in the Research centres and businesspark(s).
Pieter
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Post by bescheid on Jan 20, 2008 9:41:39 GMT -7
Over hill, over dale, thorough bush, thorough brier, over park, over pale, thorough flood, thorough fire, I do wander everywhere, Swifter than the moon’s sphere Either I mistake your shape and making quite, Or else you are that shrewd and knavish sprite Call'd Pahvee Bounouboh: are not you he That frights the maidens of the villagery; Skim milk, and sometimes labour in the quern And bootless make the breathless housewife churn; And sometime make the drink to bear no barm; Mislead night-wanderers, laughing at their harm?  Livia Thank you for your nice words...Also might I compliment you on your poetry and sense of good humour  Charles |
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Post by valpomike on Jan 20, 2008 9:51:13 GMT -7
Livia,
Thank you again for the great photo's, and remember each city great and small ones, has some bad sides, and I still think Warsaw is great. Did you ever see the hanging of which I talk of, in the church, to my uncle? He also, lived near by, and his daughter now lives in his home.
The other, the Zlote Tarasy is the shopping center, I take it, is that correct?
You are a wonderfull person to take your time for us, to see many of the great sites in and around Warsaw. I want to be there now, even with it's cold.
Michael Dabrowski
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Post by livia on Jan 21, 2008 3:07:34 GMT -7
Charles, I think I must get the things straight now. It was a little trick and both Pawian and I used Williams Shakespeare words (A Midsummer Night's Dream). It was a nice try to fly but ended so abruptly.
"Save him, save him!" cried Wendy, looking with horror at the
cruel sea far below. Eventually Peter would dive through the air,
and catch Michael just before he could strike the sea, and it was
lovely the way he did it; but he always waited till the last
moment, and you felt it was his cleverness that interested him
and not the saving of human life. Also he was fond of variety,
and the sport that engrossed him one moment would suddenly cease to engage him, so there was always the possibility that the next time you fell he would let you go.
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Post by livia on Jan 21, 2008 3:09:17 GMT -7
I especially liked the exellent self portraits of the painter Schulz. He knew how to draw and paint! WOW, Pieter, I see you're a specialist on Polish culture issues ;D ;D ;D I don't like Schulz's paintings or drawing that much, but love his prose. |
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Post by livia on Jan 21, 2008 3:19:17 GMT -7
Livia, Thank you again for the great photo's, and remember each city great and small ones, has some bad sides, and I still think Warsaw is great. Did you ever see the hanging of which I talk of, in the church, to my uncle? He also, lived near by, and his daughter now lives in his home. The other, the Zlote Tarasy is the shopping center, I take it, is that correct? You are a wonderfull person to take your time for us, to see many of the great sites in and around Warsaw. I want to be there now, even with it's cold. Michael Dabrowski Yes, both Zlote Tarasy and Blue City are the shopping centres. I haven't seen the plaque to commemorate Mr. Roszkowski - I am rarely inside this church. You are very kind Michael. But I do not do anything special, I am just having fun and good litle breaks with all of you here ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by pieter on Jan 21, 2008 17:33:03 GMT -7
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Post by valpomike on Jan 25, 2008 18:53:12 GMT -7
To all,
Please start posting more photo's of Poland. Many of us enjoyed them very much.
Michael Dabrowski
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Post by livia on Jan 27, 2008 12:35:35 GMT -7
To all, Please start posting more photo's of Poland. Many of us enjoyed them very much. Michael Dabrowski Yes, Pawian, please start again. ALL enjoyed them ;D ;D ;D Gdzie się podziałeś?? Czyżby już ferie czy przeciwnie praca i praca? Where are you??? |
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Post by livia on Jan 29, 2008 15:23:05 GMT -7
Since Joanna has renewed her Warszawa thread with her own snapshots and Pawian is still somewhere else let me fill a gap for a while until he comes back ;D ;D ;D Kazimierz Dolny is a town situated in eastern Poland, right on the bank of the Wisła River. The town has the preserved Renaissance outlook and is sometimes called "Pearl of the Wisła River". Nowadays the harmony of the architecture contrasts with the disharmony of loud crowds visting the spot. It is extremely 'beaten track' tourism. Not on windy and snowless January weekend luckily. Most of the visitors stay inside this little town, while the surroundings are very special too. We have been in Kazimierz Dolny this last weekend and stayed one night there. The weather was really awful, but there were not so many tourists downtown this time. All snapshots were found in the vast hard-disk space of the internet servers  General view .  .  . . . Market Square and the water well .  .  . . . The three crosses overlook the town .  .  . . . Fara - the municipal parish church .  . . . The ruins of the castle in Kazimierz Dolny .  . . . The keep .  . . . Janowiec castle - just across the river to Kazimierz Dolny .  . . . 17th century buildings (here kamienica pod św. Mikołajem i Krzysztofem) .  . . . The old town .  . . . The River .  .  . . . Kazimierz Dolny is entangled with valleys and hills .  .  .  .  |
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Post by hollister on Jan 29, 2008 16:20:06 GMT -7
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Post by bescheid on Jan 29, 2008 17:45:49 GMT -7
Livia
What lovely photographs you have chosen for presentation! It matters not the source, it is the results!!
I was struck some what though, it was as if the photographer was in my home land. The buildings are so much as of ours in our North land. I was to laugh though, the photo of the {Keep} as a youth, I had read a book story of {der Unterhalt} keep. It was a sad story positioned in England during the Norman occupation and a stolen bride of a Kelt.
The photo of pathways of walking, these are the type I try to find for my walks with nature. For it gives of peace of mind and time to think. A rest of the soul whilst the body works.
Charles
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Post by leslie on Jan 30, 2008 1:47:56 GMT -7
Livia
They are wonderful photographs and they evoke such feelings of Poland past and how much I want to be fit enough to be back. My favourite, favourite is of the windmill among the beautifully coloured trees and even the mist rolling in the bottom - superb. I can see that hanging up on one of my walls taking pride of place!!
You are a more than worthy successor to Pawian.
Pozdrawiam serdcznie bardzo
Leslie
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Post by livia on Jan 30, 2008 2:03:27 GMT -7
The photo of pathways of walking, these are the type I try to find for my walks with nature. For it gives of peace of mind and time to think. A rest of the soul whilst the body works. Charles Very well said. Through walking to the soul. My favourite, favourite is of the windmill among the beautifully coloured trees and even the mist rolling in the bottom - superb. I can see that hanging up on one of my walls taking pride of place!! The windmill stands on the high bank of the river in Męćmierz village. It was the first windmill I have ever seen as a very young girl. My parents took us to Kazimierz regularly. So when I think 'widmill' it is the Męćmierz windmill that pops-up somewhere in the back of my brain. I hope Pawian will be back !! ;D ;D ;D |
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