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Post by tuftabis on Feb 13, 2009 5:03:10 GMT -7
School receptionist faces sack after five-year-old daughter is told off for talking about God
By Sam Greenhill Last updated at 12:29 AM on 13th February 2009
A school receptionist faces the sack after seeking the support of Christian friends when her five-year-old daughter was scolded for talking about God in class.
Jennie Cain's daughter Jasmine was ticked off by a teacher for discussing Heaven and Hell with a fellow pupil and came home in tears.
After comforting her distraught daughter, Mrs Cain, who works at the school, sent a private email to ten close Christian friends asking them to offer prayers for the families and the school.
But a copy fell into the hands of Gary Read, headmaster at Landscore Primary School, in Crediton, Devon.
Now Mrs Cain, 38, is being investigated for professional misconduct for allegedly making claims against the school and staff members. She may be disciplined and even faces dismissal.
The case has caused fresh outrage in the Christian community, which fears its members are becoming the most discriminated against people in society.to continue reading www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1142967/School-receptionist-faces-sack-year-old-daughter-told-talking-God.html
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Post by archivist on Feb 13, 2009 15:54:06 GMT -7
Tuftabis,
In England some local authorities have banned hot cross buns at Easter and also flying the Cross of St George (the English National flag) in case it offends ethnic minorities. Tell me you can't fly the Polish flag; tell me the Americans can't fly Old Glory etc etc etc. Tell me you can't have Christian principles or Christian symbols in your Christian country. I am a confirmed atheist but I find this abhorrent. I don't say that Muslim countries shouldn't do things Muslim in case they offend non-Muslims, so why are we so constrained? Governments and local authorities only do what foolish politically correct people tell them to do and they only get away with it because the supremely silent majority allow it. Time to call an end to it - whatever happened to Live and let live?
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Post by tuftabis on Feb 14, 2009 2:11:44 GMT -7
Tell me you can't have Christian principles or Christian symbols in your Christian country. I am a confirmed atheist but I find this abhorrent. You are not just a confirmed atheist, but also a sensible one. One part of the game is if we believe or not. This does not in fact totally depend on ourselves - it just happens inside us: we do or we do not. The other part of the game is if we do respect and accept our cultural backgorund, which in Europe is strongly connected with Christianity. As a confirmed believer I have less problems with sensible confirmed atheists than with confirmed religious fundamentalists, by the way all the best, Archivist.
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Post by dbkaczor on Feb 14, 2009 6:31:44 GMT -7
i believe in god.
i don't care if someone believes in god or not. i don't care if you believe in santa claus or not.
let people enjoy their holidays.
when i was growing up i never heard about christmas decorations offending anybody.
political correctness is ruining this country, the world.
in fact, stop the world...i want to get off!
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Post by pieter on Apr 30, 2009 3:19:26 GMT -7
Tuftabis,
Secularism, atheism and Islam are growing in Europe!
You have a lot of intolerant, aggressive non-believers who think believers are mentally ill or insane!
In my town for instance I know people who hate the government, because it is dominated by christians and christian morality. It seems that they are allergic to the christian message, christian influence and the christian past of their country.
Pieter
P.S.- I think it is due to influence of th 19th century ideologies Socialism (Social-democracy), Communism (Marxism says religion is opium for the people) and liberalism. In the 20th century Nazism, fascism, hyperindividualism and Pop-culture add to that! Decadent hedonist materialism replaced religion in many places.
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Post by Bob S on Apr 30, 2009 3:50:05 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Apr 30, 2009 5:36:52 GMT -7
Bob,
You have a lot of intolerant, aggressive believers who think non-believers are mentally ill or insane too!
Pieter
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Post by Bob S on Apr 30, 2009 5:45:44 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Apr 30, 2009 6:09:23 GMT -7
Beam me up Scotty! ;D
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Post by Bob S on Apr 30, 2009 6:24:00 GMT -7
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Post by cfn on May 30, 2009 18:52:47 GMT -7
I think Christ has the biggest shoulders of any god. What I mean is, no other God/god is discriminated against so much. Sometimes it's because the inward thought behind the discrimination is: 'There is something different about Christians...they'll get by, they can take it.' Anyone with a beef against authority takes it out on the Christians. Why? I think deep in their heart they feel there's an accountability there that they find nowhere else. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in America I never hear anyone say, "OH, BUDDHA!" or "Mohammed!" I only hear this about Jesus Christ. Why?
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Post by Eric on May 30, 2009 21:28:45 GMT -7
Why? Because America is mainly a Christian country, and there's still plenty of discrimination for non-Christians in the U.S.
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Post by cfn on Jun 3, 2009 19:41:12 GMT -7
I live in America. I think perhaps the problem you have with what I said is based on definitions. Let me explain: Many people you may think are Christians just because they live or were born in America are not. I am referring to them. I live with them. People who don't care a whit about God (the Christian God, for the purpose of this conversation) will constantly use His name and His Son's name as a curse. I do myself at times. Now we've heard about Buddha, Mohammed, Allah, etc., but I've never even heard any of their adherents use their name as a curse, and I certainly have not, either. I wonder, and this is just an honest conjecture, if that is because it is a spiritual reason as to why the use of "Jesus Christ" is so tempting. Belief in the devil is too big a step for most. I did not believe, but that did not stop me from being converted. However, no one had to tell me there was a war between good and evil in this world. I believe that it is a Personal Battle; that is, between 2 persons, and not between IMpersonal forces. In fact, that is why I was so attracted to the Christian Father/God--that He was a Personal God, just like I am a personal being, as we all are. In my experience, also, the idea of personal evil is much more believable, proven, or whatever you want to call it, than impersonal evil. For instance, you could have the greatest Constitution in the world, but if you have wicked people enforcing it, it will become a mockery. You could have the greatest laws in the world, but a wicked lawbreaker (that is, a PERSON), could always find a loophole. Than you have to make another law, but they'll find another way around it, ad infinitum. I don't want to argue, and hope I don't stoop to that here. I have grown tired of such, and was hoping to just connect with people here, as we are RELATIONAL, and not impersonal beings; but I suppose one can never escape the responsibilities of being a free moral agent. (Though I often take siestas from it.) Anyway, I like you and hope you have a good day, sincerely.
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Post by gideon on Jun 3, 2009 20:42:05 GMT -7
Paul, Well said. I agree on the personal nature of Christianity.
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Post by freetobe on Jun 3, 2009 20:45:26 GMT -7
Thanks for the heads up on Christian swearing. From now on if I must take the name in vain, it will be Allah damned, Mohammed damned oe Buddha damned. What a novel way for Christians to blaspheme some other so called God other than Jesus Christ.
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