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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 17, 2010 4:59:39 GMT -7
 Enjoy Getting Groped at Security Before You Fly this Holiday Season Courtesy of the TSA!November 12, 2010 By internettoday You have two choices when you fly these days. Either you can go through the intrusive xray machine and have some stranger staring at your naked body or you can elect for the “pat down” which will result in them feeling up EVERY part of your body including your genitals. Freedom right? Spread the image around and get the word out, we don’t want to sacrifice privacy to travel. please visit flywithdignity.org/ for more information. _ |
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Post by Eric on Nov 17, 2010 5:26:51 GMT -7
Security is in place for a reason: people carry bombs and weapons on their bodies.
If you don't want your body examined to make sure you're not a threat to the other passengers on the plane, you have two options:
1. Get a better job to afford a private plane, and fly exclusively on your (or someone else's) private plane
2. Don't fly
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Post by karl on Nov 17, 2010 5:57:46 GMT -7
Hmm, for a start: I agree with Eric absolutely! If a person wishes to fly, then be checked..
Woman and children are a fine weapon used by those wishing to do harm against the common good. For they are the least likely to be considered dangerous.
The enemies of the common good are very well aware of this fact and hold little compulsion in the use of them. A pretty woman, a lovely child, both have the ability to kill you in an efficient manner as prescribed by the purpose endowed upon them.
Karl
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 17, 2010 6:52:29 GMT -7
So its okay to submit to an anal fisting search ?  |
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Post by Jaga on Nov 17, 2010 7:03:44 GMT -7
Eric and Karl,
security is also a big business. CNN yesterday had a report that Chertoff (not sure I spelled his name right) , a previous US security guy has financial interests in it.
Security has a big lobby group in the US. It is the bes to scare people to make sure they give enough money for these guys and their interests.
Do you remember this scare with yemen airplanes cargo? What was it about? Was it just to remind the public that they have to found security?
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Post by justjohn on Nov 17, 2010 10:28:11 GMT -7
Enjoy Getting Groped at Security Before You Fly this Holiday Season Courtesy of the TSA!November 12, 2010 By internettoday You have two choices when you fly these days. Either you can go through the intrusive xray machine and have some stranger staring at your naked body or you can elect for the “pat down” which will result in them feeling up EVERY part of your body including your genitals. Freedom right? Spread the image around and get the word out, we don’t want to sacrifice privacy to travel. please visit flywithdignity.org/ for more information. _ Where's my bottle of wine |
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 17, 2010 12:19:10 GMT -7
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 is NATIONAL OPT-OUT DAY!It's the day ordinary citizens stand up for their rights, stand up for liberty, and protest the federal government's desire to virtually strip us naked or submit to an "enhanced pat down" that touches people's breasts and genitals in an aggressive manner. You should never have to explain to your children, "Remember that no stranger can touch or see your private area, unless it's a government employee, then it's OK." The goal of National Opt Out Day is to send a message to our lawmakers that we demand change. We have a right to privacy and buying a plane ticket should not mean that we're guilty until proven innocent. This day is needed because many people do not understand what they consent to when choosing to fly. Here are the details: www.optoutday.com/
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Post by Eric on Nov 17, 2010 12:33:21 GMT -7
Such "protests" are so ridiculous. Do these people really want to end or seriously diminish security screenings? Fine... let that happen, and commercial air travel will become exceedingly dangerous.
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 17, 2010 13:58:54 GMT -7
al-Queda and homeland security have effectively destroyed the airline travel industry. As they say.....it takes two to tango.  |
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 18, 2010 3:05:00 GMT -7
Anti-gay group: ‘Homosexual’ TSA staff ‘secretly turned on’ by patdownsBy Eric W. Dolan Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 The head of an anti-gay group is warning travelers that homosexual agents of the Transportation Security Agency (TSA) may be getting secret satisfaction out of airport security pat-downs. His warning adds a homophobic spin to the controversy surrounding new security procedures enacted by the TSA, which have been described as little short of molestation. "Is it fair to travelers who may end up getting 'groped' by homosexual TSA agents who are secretly getting turned on through the process?" asks Peter LaBarbera, President of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH), an anti-gay group based in Naperville, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago. For LaBarbera, the thought of getting a pat-down from a possibly homosexual agent is of special concern. "The reality is, most traveling men would not want Barney Frank to pat them down at the airport security checkpoint," LaBarbera said. The new airport pat-down procedure is required for those who choose to opt out of full body scans using backscatter X-ray machines. Although a recent poll found that most people are in favor of the new body scanners, many are still concerned with invasions of privacy and possible health effects. "They say the risk is minimal, but statistically someone is going to get skin cancer from these X-rays," Dr Michael Love, who runs an X-ray lab at the department of biophysics and biophysical chemistry at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, told AFP. "No exposure to X-ray is considered beneficial. We know X-rays are hazardous but we have a situation at the airports where people are so eager to fly that they will risk their lives in this manner." Although TSA officials claim the detailed images produced by the full body scanners are not stored, nearly 35,000 images from a body scanner in an Orlando, Florida courthouse were recorded and stored due to "mismanagement" of the machine. Those upset about the new body scanners and intrusive airport pat-down procedure have decided to hold an "opt-out" protest on November 24th to show travelers how "the TSA treats law-abiding citizens" who refuse to be scanned. Pilots and flight attendants, who are not exempt from the new security procedures, are expected to protest as well. "This situation has already produced a sexual molestation in alarmingly short order," US Airlines Pilots Association President Mike Cleary said in a statement. "Left unchecked, there's simply no way to predict how far the TSA will overreach in searching and frisking pilots who are, ironically, mere minutes from being in the flight deck." LaBarbera's group, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality, is "dedicated to exposing the homosexual activist agenda" and has been labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. "Yes, his homophobic hate is so off off the rails, it's comical, but LaBarbera's nearly 20-year obsession with 'opposing the radical homosexual agenda and standing for God-ordained sexuality' causes lots of damage and heartache to members of the LGBT community," writes the ChatterBox website. To investigate the "homosexual agenda," members of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality go to gay events in San Francisco and take photographs of naked men. In September, LaBarbera posted photographs of nude gay men at a Folsom Street Fair. "LaBarbera has been falsely accused of being a repressed homosexual more times than he can remember," the Americans For Truth About Homosexuality website notes. |
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Post by karl on Nov 18, 2010 11:00:29 GMT -7
Nictoe
Pertaining to the most recent of presentation of {Anti-Gay group Homosexual} is interesting of reading, but for what reason to be concerned? This people are in placed for the reason of security augmentation to Police personal. They have the authority to stop people of suspect reasons, but not authority of arrest.
For in subject of Article presentation, is nothing new. For the Americans are learning what we have known for many years {not every thing is as it appears}. The nun in the photograph,,,is this person an actual nun? Or that matter, is the depicted nun actually a female?
Of concerns of electronic retainment of stored images of past and currant scans? Of course, these scans are kept as stored images. This is the build up of cataloged image history. We also access these images for comparisons to that of our data base.
Your system of electronic image collection and comparison to compiled image identification is not new to us. We have been in that business for some many years at present. Even my self whilst in assignment with our department personnel utilized this system for scan checks.
Perhaps it should be announced to some, this system is shared between most all industrial nations for some many years, even with Poland, in as much to The Russian Federation is a very important partner of Identification Electronics.
In short: If a person has nothing to hide, then they have nothing to worry of....
The Americans worry so much over nothing.
Karl
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 18, 2010 11:40:29 GMT -7
Ron Paul: Cut out this Soviet-style nonsense
Congressman launches bill, suggests searches would cease if Obama, top officials had them
By Joe Kovacs
2010 WorldNetDaily
With a week to go until the Thanksgiving travel peak and Americans' anger continuing to rise over heightened airport-security measures, a U.S. congressman launched legislation today to end what he calls Soviet-style searches by the American government.
Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, introduced the Air Traveler Dignity Act to protect Americans from physical and emotional abuse by federal Transportation Security Administration employees conducting screenings at the nation's airports.
"Something has to be done," Paul said. "Everybody's fed up. The people are fed up. The pilots are fed up. I'm fed up."
"We have seen the videos of terrified children being grabbed and probed by airport screeners. We have read the stories of Americans being subjected to humiliating body imaging machines and/or forced to have the most intimate parts of their bodies poked and fondled," he added.
"This TSA version of our rights looks more like the 'rights' granted in the old Soviet Constitutions, where freedoms were granted to Soviet citizens – right up to the moment the state decided to remove those freedoms."
Join more than 17,000 others in a petition demanding action against the intrusive airport screening procedures implemented by Janet Napolitano and send a letter to Congress, President Obama and others telling them exactly what you think about the issue.
Paul's legislation, H.R. 6416, is just two sentences long, stating:
No law of the United States shall be construed to confer any immunity for a federal employee or agency or any individual or entity that receives federal funds, who subjects an individual to any physical contact (including contact with any clothing the individual is wearing), X-rays, or millimeter waves, or aids in the creation of or views a representation of any part of a individual's body covered by clothing as a condition for such individual to be in an airport or to fly in an aircraft. The preceding sentence shall apply even if the individual or the individual's parent, guardian, or any other individual gives consent.
"My legislation is simple," Paul said. "It establishes that airport-security screeners are not immune from any U.S. law regarding physical contact with another person, making images of another person, or causing physical harm through the use of radiation-emitting machinery on another person. It means they are subject to the same laws as the rest of us."
Paul suggested the controversial screening techniques would vanish if top-ranking government officials were themselves subject to them.
"Imagine if the political elites in our country were forced to endure the same conditions at the airport as business travelers, families, senior citizens, and the rest of us. Perhaps this problem could be quickly resolved if every cabinet secretary, every member of Congress, and every department head in the Obama administration were forced to submit to the same degrading screening process as the people who pay their salaries."
The congressman says he warned at the time of the TSA's creation that an unaccountable government entity in control of airport security would provide neither security nor defend Americans' basic freedom to travel.
"Yet the vast majority of both Republicans and Democrats then in Congress willingly voted to create another unaccountable, bullying agency – in a simple-minded and unprincipled attempt to appease public passion in the wake of 9/11," he said. "Sadly, as we see with the steady TSA encroachment on our freedom and dignity, my fears in 2001 were justified."
Paul, a former Air Force flight surgeon and obstetrics specialist who has delivered more than 4,000 babies, also expressed concern about "the potentially harmful effects of the radiation emitted by the new millimeter wave machines," and said the solution for security at airports is not a government bureaucracy.
"The solution is to allow the private sector, preferably the airlines themselves, to provide for the security of their property," he said.
Paul isn't the only member of Congress outraged by the TSA's current search methods.
Rep. John Duncan, R-Tenn., took to the House floor to say, "A nationwide revolt is developing over the body scanners at the airports, and it should."
Duncan said there's already plenty of security at the airport, and there was no need to spend up to $300 million to install 1,000 scanners.
"This is much more about money than it is about security," said Duncan, the former chairman of the House Aviation Subcommittee and the current top Republican on the House Subcommittee on Highways and Transit.
"The former secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, represents Rapiscan, the company which is selling these scanners to his former department. Far too many federal contracts are sweetheart, insider deals.
"Companies hire former high-ranking federal officials, and then magically, those companies get hugely profitable federal contracts. The American people should not have to choose between having full-body radiation or a very embarrassing, intrusive pat-down every time they fly, as if they were criminals."
But not everyone in Congress has such a harsh outlook on the enhanced measures.
Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., today called the hands-on probing of flyers' private parts "love pats."
"I'm wildly excited that I can walk through a machine instead of getting my dose of love pats," she said.
McCaskill was among a group of senators hearing testimony from TSA chief John Pistole.
"We know the terrorists' intent is still there," Pistole said, as he strongly defended the new procedures. "We are using technology and protocols to stay ahead of the threat and keep you safe. (Several near-misses by terrorists on airplane bombings) got through security because we were not being thorough enough in our pat-downs."
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Post by Eric on Nov 18, 2010 15:32:02 GMT -7
Soviet? Really? Airport security in the USSR was, by today's standards, minimal to non-existant.
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Post by Nictoshek on Nov 18, 2010 16:05:37 GMT -7
Soviet? Really? Airport security in the USSR was, by today's standards, minimal to non-existant. Then again.....just how many civilian paying passengers they really had back then ?  |
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Post by Eric on Nov 18, 2010 16:48:08 GMT -7
Soviet? Really? Airport security in the USSR was, by today's standards, minimal to non-existant. Then again.....just how many civilian paying passengers they really had back then ? A LOT more than today. Airline tickets were extremely inexpensive in the Soviet days. Many more people flew in the Soviet days than today. Why was there less security? Because in the USSR there was less crime and (until perestroika) terrororism was virtually unheard of. |
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