aadam
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Post by aadam on Nov 16, 2005 14:16:31 GMT -7
Hello Pieter, witaj druhu! I am so glad you are here at last!
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nancy
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Post by nancy on Nov 16, 2005 15:14:04 GMT -7
PS. Am I the only one so young here?? "hussar" is 17, I think he is the youngest.
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Post by gardenmoma on Nov 16, 2005 16:57:35 GMT -7
Dear People, My grandfather was a Polish officer in the Tsarist army, and later experianced the Polish-Russian war of 1920, and in the second world war he was on the run for the Gestapo, because he belonged to the Polish intelligentsia. Pieter Pieter, You certainly have an interesting family background and also so many interesting likes and hobbies...it will be good to have you around the Forum. The Netherlands are probably the second place I like to visit - the first being Poland, although I've only been there once. I quoted the bit about your grandfather because my grandfather, so the family story says, left Poland (near Bialystok) to come to the United States because he did not want to be part of the Czar's army. Perhaps he had a premonition of what was to come. He was fairly well educated and as a child I was always impressed by the fact that he could read, write and speak Polish, Russian, English and Latin (I don't know about the writing on this last one...) Well done...I enjoyed your long story Garden Moma
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Post by Jaga on Nov 16, 2005 18:14:42 GMT -7
I think Hussar and Eric are the youngest ...together with Pawian's kids... just joking;)
This picture of Pawian is from probably 20-30 years ago
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piwo
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Post by piwo on Nov 16, 2005 20:21:26 GMT -7
Czesc Pieter, My Polish family is also near Augustow, only a little further north and east. I visited them there this past summer. I have some marriage documents (written in Russian), of my great, great aunt Eva who married a man "on vacation from the army". In 1872 in Mikolajowek, there was only one army: also the Tsarist army!
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Yanc
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Post by Yanc on Nov 16, 2005 22:21:05 GMT -7
Hello
Jim: Electric, not electronic. My job is to design and build medium and low voltage power lines, cables and overhead + transformer substations and residential and industrial electric installations.
Suzannem: Yeah, that's young for sure. I wrote this, because everyone who wrote here before me was born during or shortly after WWII (except for Jaga).
Yanc
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aadam
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Post by aadam on Nov 17, 2005 1:39:47 GMT -7
Hello Yanc, I like your town of Brodnica very much, the castle the market square and, mostg of all the surrounding landscape. We often spend time on the lakes North of Brodnica. Welcome to the forum. P.S. Your boss is wrong You drive Ford and you are glad. I drive different Peugeots since many years and nothing unexpected ever happened. I once owned Audi, I admit, and nothing unexpected happened as well, but the car had no that liitle 'something' some call the 'cars soul'
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Pawian
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Have you seen my frog?
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Post by Pawian on Nov 17, 2005 2:16:36 GMT -7
I drive different Peugeots since many years and nothing unexpected ever happened. I once owned Audi, I admit, and nothing unexpected happened as well, but the car had no that liitle 'something' some call the 'cars soul' That is funny how we differ in attributing "soul" characteristics to various cars. You like French ones, but I reject them completely. They have nothing special, besides, they tend to be unreliable. Once I had an old Fiat 127. It was so old the word antique would suit it better. I thought this car had a soul. Today I don`t need a car with a soul. I need a reliable one because every day I drive out of the city, if something happened I would be helpless. I drive a few-year- old Toyota Corrolla. It hasn`t failed me.
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aadam
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Post by aadam on Nov 17, 2005 2:20:03 GMT -7
Jerzy, my father once owned Corolla, he used it for some 10 years!! Great car. As to different 'likes' about the cars - de gustibus non disputandum est
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Post by jimpres on Nov 17, 2005 8:10:58 GMT -7
Yanc,
Do you ever get involved with fiber optic cables? I am wondering what kind of ISP service is avialable in Poland. Seems many Poles go to internet cafes for internet services. And am I correct you live in the Brodnica south of Poznan?
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Yanc
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Post by Yanc on Nov 17, 2005 13:18:12 GMT -7
Hi all
Jim: I am not involved in this kind of stuff, I know how it works, but it's not my speciality.
As for ISP we have: - dial-up connections by modems - still most popular, especially out of cities, - ADSL - gaining popularity, available speeds are 128, 256, 512, 640, 768 kbps, 1; 1,5 and 2 Mbps, - DSL 0,5/1/2 Mbps - quite expensive used mainly by companies - SDI also called HIS (Home internet solution), 115kbps, still available but quite obsolete - WLAN by radio - popular especially in rural/suburbs area, (that's the one I am using right now) - internet by cable tv - available only in cities, speeds vary from 128kbps to 1Mbps - internet by GSM - gaining popularity due to large area coverage, which allow you to use internet in travel, - internet by satellite is also available in two variants a) only downlink - you need alternative connection for uplink b) full satellite uplink/downlink - very very expensive, very rare
None of the above use fiber optics, at least not for the 'last mile' line.
There are faster connections also available , T1, T3 and so on, connected by fiber optics, but they are considered the 'backbone' of internet structure, and are usually used by academic centres, large companies, ISP etc., and are not available for home users.
And yes, you are right, this is exactly the Brodnica south of Poznañ.
Yanc
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Post by jimpres on Nov 17, 2005 14:07:24 GMT -7
Yanc, Thanks for the information on the ISP services in Poland. I have some family on a farm near Rypin just south of the other Brodnica. They would like to get connected to the internet. Are you saying WLAN is an RF transmission system? I will have to check out some of these alternatives.
Thanks
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Post by pieter on Nov 17, 2005 14:08:01 GMT -7
Hello Adam,
Thanks for your welcome friend! I am glad to be here too, thank you! I liked our discussion about Lev Shestov on the other forum and your discussions with Jerzy and others there as well. I hope that there will be another pleasant debate between my comrades from Warsaw and krakow here too.
Pieter
Garden Moma
I am sorry that I wasn't able to spend more time with my Polish family due to the distance, Iron curtain and the communication problem (in that time not everybody spoke German or English overthere, so as a kid I had some language problems. But the joy of being there, with our relatives and the friends of my mother was bigger than the administrative fuz) The Netherlands are pleasant place to visit when you go there in the spring or summer, and combine a little bit of countryside, North sea and Frisian lakes with the cities with Duch culture. Poland is nice, because so much has been preserved, and you have everything there, nice cities, towns, culture, wildlife, lakes, sea and mountains. For that matter it has more than Holland. (Oeps..., sorry Duch tourist office).
I think that your father was a sophisticated gentleman when I hear that he could read, write and speak Polish, Russian, English and Latin. I think maybe Latin was a bit easier for a Pole than for another nationality, because of their Catholic background and latin spelling and grammar, with 7 cases. In that period not many people spoke English, not even the first immigrants in the USA, so I heared. What was his job?
Pieter
Czesc Piwo,
It is interesting to hear about your family who lived north and east from Augustow. That must have been on the Lithuanian border. How was it to be there this past summer. Is it a beautiful area? I know that my American cousins were bussy to find the spot where my grandfathers family (Schlachtza) had some land in Tworki. That was lost during the war and Communism. Do you have also pictures of your great aunt Eva and her man from the Polish branch of the Tsarist army. I have to tell you that Polish patriots fought in the Tsarist army, German and Austrian armies. The experiance they got they later used for implementing the Polish armia of independant Poland, the former Russian, German and Austrian regiments of Poles united in the new army under Pilsudski's command. So did my grandfather.
Pieter
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Post by pieter on Nov 17, 2005 14:46:04 GMT -7
Bescheid
Deutsch ist nicht meiner erste sprache, auch nicht meiner zweite sprache, weil das Englisch ist. Deutsch ist für mich der sprache meiner nachbarn, und von literatur (Kafka, Heine, Grass), filme unde guten Frernsehen programme die ich mag. Ich furh manchmal durch die Bundesrepublik und die DDR nach Polen und zurück. Polen ist für mich ein weit entfernte Inseln wo ein teil meiner herfunft liegt, mein Zweite Heimat, eine Kulturelle Quelle. Was wichtig für mich ist das ich die geschichte, kultur und Kunst von mein Eltern mitgekriegen hat. Sie sammelten Polnische Kunst, und mein vater las übersetzte Polnische und Russische Literatur (auf Niederlandisch und Englisch). Durch geschichte bücher und literatur habe ich Polen auf meiner weise kennen gelernt. Meines ziel ist in der nahe zukunft mehr ins Polen zu fahren.
Pieter
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Post by jimpres on Nov 17, 2005 19:29:12 GMT -7
Ach do liebe himmel was haben wir gemacht........
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