george
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Post by george on Jan 18, 2007 17:37:52 GMT -7
Our pastor of our church in Albany Ny had a sermon last Sunday when he anounced that he was encourging gays to attend our church. He said he doesn;t want them excluded from the church. He is going to have a few special masses for gays to start if off. I was surprised that few parishoners objected. I highly doubt if our priest is gay. However i have this question for our family of posters. Is it OK for priests to be homosexual? Would it matter for you to have a parish priest who was gay?
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Post by jeanne on Jan 18, 2007 18:41:13 GMT -7
There is a big difference between being homosexual and living a homosexual lifestyle. I'm sure there are many priests who have a homosexual orientation and that is not a problem as long as they do not engage in homosexual activities. They and their straight counterparts should both be held accountable to their vows of chastity and celibacy.
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Post by joanzaniskey on Jan 22, 2007 13:42:56 GMT -7
Recently, a priest in L.I. parish was relieved of his duties because he was charged with fondling a female teenager. This was alleged to have happened at a holiday party and he was supposedly drunk. I understand the parishioners were actually relieved. At last, a heterosexual pedophile priest. When are American Catholics going to wake up? This sexual "misconduct" has been around since the church was formed and was covered up by the churches leaders.
Joan
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george
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Post by george on Jan 22, 2007 17:38:01 GMT -7
It has covered up by not only national church officials, but also by the Vatican itself. By that i mean Popes included
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Post by Jaga on Jan 23, 2007 13:15:24 GMT -7
Our pastor of our church in Albany Ny had a sermon last Sunday when he anounced that he was encourging gays to attend our church. He said he doesn;t want them excluded from the church. He is going to have a few special masses for gays to start if off. I was surprised that few parishoners objected. I highly doubt if our priest is gay. However i have this question for our family of posters. Is it OK for priests to be homosexual? Would it matter for you to have a parish priest who was gay? George, what denomination are you in? You said "pastor" so I think he is not a Catholic priest?
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Post by jeanne on Jan 23, 2007 15:25:18 GMT -7
Jaga,
"Pastor" is indeed a Catholic term here in the US. It refers to the priest who is "in charge" of a parish, the one with the ultimate decision making authority among the other priests in a given parish.
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george
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Post by george on Jan 23, 2007 16:27:04 GMT -7
Took the words right out of my mouth Jeanne. Good explaination
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Post by sciwriter on Jan 23, 2007 22:17:42 GMT -7
All Priests including Pastors, Rabbis, etc. are humans and thus susceptible to all human probems. IMO homosexuality and sexual perversions are neuro-endocrine disorders. For example, homosexuals tend to have skeletal abnormalities, excess or too little body fat, and actually or potentially depressed immune system.
Medical, especially biochemical, research is needed to determine the causes and treatment.
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Post by joanzaniskey on Jan 24, 2007 13:17:35 GMT -7
Sciwriter,
What is the source of your info re homosexual skeletal abnormalities etc. ? Joan
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george
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Post by george on Jan 24, 2007 15:10:44 GMT -7
yeah... what is your source? Never heard of this. Anything from a viable medical research group? Exp. New England Journal of Medicine? Sounds somewhat ( very ) bizzare.
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Post by joanzaniskey on Jan 25, 2007 12:23:27 GMT -7
Maybe the same researchers who are doing a study on gay sheep. See NY Times page 1 article, Thursday, Jan. 25,2006. What will they waste their time, taxpayer dollars(grants) and failing brain cells on next. Only in America. Joan
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Post by hollister on Jan 25, 2007 14:12:29 GMT -7
You know every time I see this header - I ask myself why can't priests be happy? Then it hits me that you mean something else.....
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Post by joanzaniskey on Jan 25, 2007 18:27:39 GMT -7
Holly, And what might that something else be? And who said priests can't be happy? Are you serious? Start from the top of the page, then comment on this nonsense. Joan
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Post by hollister on Jan 26, 2007 10:42:04 GMT -7
Joan, I was attempting to be humorous - I guess I wasn't.
As far as being on topic with this thread - I don't see anything wrong with a priest extending an invitation to ANYONE to come to a mass. If a priest could only minster to those who lived in a continual state of grace - not many people would qualify.
I think Jeanne hit the nail on the head with her observation about Chasity and celibacy.
I would like to see Carl provide some evidence of the claim about homosexual skeletal abnormalities
Lastly I wonder if the United States had an Arch Bishop that maybe some of these problems would have been dealt with more swiftly and more directly. I think the American tendency toward individualism and acceptance of a cafeteria style Catholicism may have played a part in and play a part in these scandals.
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Post by joanzaniskey on Jan 26, 2007 13:22:10 GMT -7
Holly, Point well taken.I am probably too serious on the subject of American Catholicism. I would be delighted if the U.S. had an American Catholic church with a more enlightened view of what is sin and what is not. Relations between consulting adults is strictly their business. Perhaps the time is now for a break with Rome and its sexist theology. I have no problem with gay priests, straight priests, dancing priests, happy priests, sad priests or even priestesses. I do have a major problem with pedophilia. The issue of gay priests arose out of the Roman church's need to absolve itself of responsibility for their abject failure to deal with pedophilia by blaming it all on homosexuality. I must commend the Albany pastor who is encouraging gays to join his congregation. Hope the Vatican doesn't get wind of this or he'll be out of a job.
Joan
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