zooba
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Post by zooba on Dec 11, 2008 4:03:05 GMT -7
The Polish jokes or the jokes about the Polish are just jokes - who would we become if we couldn't laugh at (from?) ourselves? You need some healthy mental distance to enjoy them - we all have vices, so what? Why take all this so seriously?
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Post by archivist on Dec 12, 2008 6:40:57 GMT -7
A message to Mediawatch. Lighten up! If you can't laugh at your own shortcomings then you must be neurotic. Some of my best friends make (really funny) jokes about my (unkempt) hair. I joke back that it is only human grass and I'm too lazy to mow it. Nobody takes it seriously and I am not offended. Get real, don't let it get to you and don't fall into the politically correct trap. In this country, you can lose your job over a harmless joke. Recently an Irishman was awarded 44 thousand pounds compensation because an English colleague called him a thick paddy. That's very nice for your bank account but when nobody will speak to you for fear of causing offence, the value falls through the floor. Once again, I say get real; a joke is a joke and if you can't take it I'm sorry for you. Besides, if things are going a bit too far, you could have a quiet word with the joker and if they are basically decent, he/she will almost certainly stop if they think they are giving offence.
Neville
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Post by archivist on Dec 12, 2008 6:47:00 GMT -7
Tuftabis are you a Brit?
Your assessment is absolutely accurate when you refferred to the Sun, but you missed out the Star and the Sport, which are even worse!
Neville
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Post by dbkaczor on Dec 12, 2008 7:01:51 GMT -7
The Polish jokes or the jokes about the Polish are just jokes - who would we become if we couldn't laugh at (from?) ourselves? You need some healthy mental distance to enjoy them - we all have vices, so what? Why take all this so seriously? agreed. i love jokes. and i don't mind polish jokes. i love them. some are hysterically so true. we need humor in our lives and make light of things. life is short. not too long ago, i told a joke about a certain religious group and you wouldn't believe how many people attacked me for it. i thought it was really funny. if this is where the world is headed, it's not going to be fun...
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Post by jimpres on Dec 12, 2008 9:59:47 GMT -7
I agree jokes are jokes. However, when my daughter at the age of 8 was told Polish people were stupid I was angry. She came home from school and asked me why Polish people were stupid. I tried to explain it was just bigotry and it was not true. I armed her with information on some famous Poles and that seemed to end it.
Jim
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zooba
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Post by zooba on Dec 12, 2008 14:27:22 GMT -7
Jim, children are merciless - they would laugh at you because you are blond/short.tall/skinny/fat/shortsighted etc. I loved how you explained your daughter the truth. We have a series of jokes where the Polish are the smartest
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Post by Jaga on Dec 12, 2008 19:03:42 GMT -7
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Post by redneck on Dec 12, 2008 20:05:13 GMT -7
Here in the states the jokes remain the same but the ethnic group/race changes with the immigrant Du Jour. I think its more a way of poking fun at the cultural awkwardness of the new arrival. Where I grew up we told Sven and Olaf jokes. The key here is to be able to take what you give!
Some stereotypes are unfair, some are just real time-savers.
The only thing I've noticed with the Eastern European immigrants is they have no ability to color-coordinate clothing.
Tim
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Post by Jaga on Dec 12, 2008 22:56:27 GMT -7
The only thing I've noticed with the Eastern European immigrants is they have no ability to color-coordinate clothing. Tim Tim that means that these guys is not Polish or
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Post by kaima on Dec 13, 2008 1:23:47 GMT -7
Some stereotypes are unfair, some are just real time-savers. The only thing I've noticed with the Eastern European immigrants is they have no ability to color-coordinate clothing. Tim Tim, I have noticed the same thing in Eastern Europe, but think of it more that they just put on whatever clothes are proper for the moment and the color is unimportant. It seems to me the Chinese do much the same. It makes me feel more a touch of America when I am in Europe and leave Western Europe for the Eastern European countries. It is more relaxed. Now I am just about as bad off. I have to think of 'do these colors clash', as most of my dressing judgment is expended when I decide "I like this shirt." and "I like these pants." and "I like these socks.". The three thoughts cannot be brought into one sentence without very careful effort! Kai
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Post by redneck on Dec 13, 2008 6:11:40 GMT -7
I cant let Western Europeans off the hook now can I?
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Post by karl on Dec 13, 2008 7:37:20 GMT -7
Here in the states the jokes remain the same but the ethnic group/race changes with the immigrant Du Jour. I think its more a way of poking fun at the cultural awkwardness of the new arrival. Where I grew up we told Sven and Olaf jokes. The key here is to be able to take what you give! Some stereotypes are unfair, some are just real time-savers. The only thing I've noticed with the Eastern European immigrants is they have no ability to color-coordinate clothing. Tim Tim I was 1st to pass up your post, then to think, hmmm-this man possesses a rightly good point... It is not so much as on the street, but more so in the market this is most noticeable. Usually it is Russians or Ukrainian people. The ladies appear as of refugee statues with heavy scarf and bundled appearance. The fellows usually {generalizing} have the appearance of street found clothing. Usually a rumpled old business suit or jacket with a dowdy sweater and sandals. And I mean sandals in the cold weather... The young ladies not so badly. They wear an upgrade usually of knee length dress with out slip, and if new landed, very hairy legs. Once situated though, young people adapt very quickly to style and dress with very nice hair. The older, stay older. The Italian, well they are of various moods of style. Some appear of the island of a forgotten island of no where, whilst in contrast, what ever they wear, is attractive and well presented. For the most part, the Italians know how to present them selves in-as-of many French. Around them, my self is to feel dowdy and rough. I think though perhaps, style has changed from much time in past. In previous, a person generally dressed as best with that of available to them. Now, it is more of comfort and casual. There once was a good indication of personal wealth by notice of the quality of shoes worn, now that is replaced by the universal wear of sports shoes. They are easy maintenance, relatively in-expensive and easily tossed with out expense of professional shoe maker repairs. My self? I wear primarily dark clothing from the long past sea life as habit and hat. My purchase of underclothes is universal purchase to throw out all older underclothing replaced with the new. In this manner, all wear at similar. For laundry purpose, all sockens are the same in-as-much to underclothes. Saves time in laundry sorting for all are same colour. Very little problem of universal dark clothing, for little is there to clash in colour. But, for the hat, yes. Brown will generally match up with most colours worn, but must be augmented with a dark grey brimmed hat for those occasions of dress shirt wear. The hat for my self is not for style, it is head protection from the element of weather, and the seaman cap, is wool and cold/wet protection. The brimmed hat, is equal protection from weather and sunshine. For as an added bit of protection form unconventional situation of fowl of the air. For those things enjoy to fly over people and as so, roost above areas of walk way. The fowl will fly, but the poop will fall. One lucky strike on the head and/or clothing, and it is a good bet, the recipient of that strike, will hold and instant hate for those darn things... Karl
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Post by redneck on Dec 13, 2008 8:05:04 GMT -7
Karl. Yes, clothes are really a matter of practicality and availability. Fashion is certainly regional. I think there is much to be said about the British fashion as well... Like this! We must'nt leave Neville out of this. Since I have seen fit to critique others fashion sense, You will justifiably critique the American fashion won't you?
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Post by archivist on Dec 13, 2008 8:40:13 GMT -7
Tim,
Thanks for including me - and I do like the style! Personally I am a conservative dresser with excellent colour co-ordination. (Except when it comes to T-shirts, then anything goes. Americans are like many other nations and have some weird dressers but mostly smart whether the colours and styles suit your taste or not. The only quirk I have noticed is that SOME Americans wear their trousers a little too high above the shoes. Generally they are pretty well turned out so no major criticism. I guess you pass the test.
Neville
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Post by archivist on Dec 13, 2008 8:43:14 GMT -7
Tim,
You got Monty Python in there! (The Knights who say Ni!) I am impressed! PS I also wear a soccer shirt in my team colours - red and white vertical stripes. Not Polish, but close.
Neville
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