Ukraine

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Catholics & Cultures

Midnight Easter Liturgy

Saints Peter and Paul Garrison Church
Lviv, Ukraine
April 16, 2017

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In the darkness of the eve before Pascha, or Easter, Ukrainian Greek Catholics gather at liturgy to continue to venerate the dead Christ through the the icon of the plaschenytsia. Known as a nadhrobne, it is a service at the tomb. People bow and venerate the cloth icon as they arrive, and the choir chants from the psalms and other prayers. The priest eventually takes the plaschenytsia and places it on the altar.

The celebrants change their vestments from red for mourning to white for celebration, beginning a part of the service known as the Resurrection Matins. An icon of the risen Christ is presented to the faithful, among lit candles signaling the light of Christ brought back into the world. A procession leaves the church, into the dark streets, to indeed bring the image of Christ into the world. When the procession returns to the church, the priests knocks on the closed door of the church, and proclaims for the first time the message, "Khrystos voskres! Christ is risen!" The community is blessed three times with the message, "Khrystos voskres!" and they answer each time "Voistynu Voskrese! He is risen indeed!"

The service continues inside with the continued singing of Matins and the celebration of the Divine Liturgy.

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[Jaga]

Saturday night had a very funny spot about Ukraine and the media taking sometimes a Russia side. Please watch, it is hilarious

www.mediaite.com/entertainment/saturday-night-live-parodies-russian-disinformation-american-cdc-strongly-recommends-russia-invade-ukraine/
Saturday Night Live Cold Open Parodies Russian Disinformation: ‘American CDC Strongly Recommends Russia Invade Ukraine’

[karl]

Jaga and Pieter

We as people are living in rather unusual times with all that is occuring in our respective world. But, what we do not need is another war on our land. For when it begins, it begins a life of its own and those that think they are safe, are living in a fools paradise. For the weapons of the present do not understand distance nor hold any regard to life or property.

My self am not familar with any programme named Saturday Night or American CDC but it must have influence with American politics. In as far as the American President, Mr. Biden, the man is not very well thought of on this side of the pond or his decisions.

Yes, Germany is not siding with the common thinking of pressing Russian President Putin to agree to their thinking with using NATO as a big stick. Germany has a long memory of the last war and others needs be to this in to account with them selves. For in the last war, Europe was destroyed and is not immune in the event of another such event.

Karl

[pieter]

Karl,

Very wise words from your German perspective. In Europe we have experience with the French invasion of Russia by Napoleon in 1812, the First World War and the Second World War. All of these encounters of forces of the West and forces of the East ended in a great loss of life and destruction of property in various countries.

The French invasion of Russia by Napoleon in 1812 costed 1,000,000 human lives, about 3,500,000 military & civilian deaths were counted on the Eastern Front of the First World War and during the Eastern Front conflict in the SovietUnion 26,600,000 Soviet Red army and civilians lost their lives. About 4,137,000 German and Austrian Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS men died in the SovietUnion during that vicious & bloody & harsh war at the Eastern Front (inclusive Karl's father).

The American political scientist and professor at the Indiana University, Yale University, and University of Hawaiʻi Rudolph Joseph Rummel (October 21, 1932 – March 2, 2014) estimated the death toll due to Nazi Democide in the SovietUnion at 20.9 million persons.

The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was about 40 million and the total amount of victims in Europe, Asia and North-Africa of the Second World War was inbetween 70,000,000 to 85,000,000 deaths. That is comparable to the entire population of Germany.

We can't imagine what a 21th century war would cost in human lives. Hundreds of millions of lives, a Billion (1,000,000,000,) or more. Would we encounter a Nuclear winter and a destroyed and contaminated, barren, Europe and Eurasia, with radio active and thus polluted landmasses, and lack of food, water, energy, housing and employment and probably huge unsafety, banditism, large area's controled by gangs, tribal groups, clans, war lords, militia and death squads. Apocalyptic Hollywood movies and Art House movies like Dark (Netflix) and the Road.





Cheers,
Pieter

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A very one sided opinion from Fox news. Not mentioning the Ukrainian Nazi collaboration side during the Second World War. Fact that Ukrainians were part of the Red army, Soviet partisans and NKVD troops, but they were Waffen-SS (14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der SS [galizische Nr. 1]), the genocidal UPA (Ukrainian: Українська повстанська армія, УПА, Ukrayins'ka Povstans'ka Armiya) Nationalist Underground army (killing Polish civilians) and the Ukrainian Auxiliary Police (Ukrainische Hilfspolizei) was created by Heinrich Himmler in mid-August 1941 and put under the control of German Ordnungspolizei in General Government territory and the Ukrainian guards and Kapo's in Nazi concentrationcamps.

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[karl]

Pieter

Even though my self am not a friend of the Ukrainian Government, I must say it has created a smart move in self with creating and manufacturing a crises of arms between the West as lead by the Americans, and Russia. This of course was for the refusal of not allowing Ukraine in to NATO Which is American, and the West bought in to it hook, line and sinker.

Now, it would take but an accidental gun shot across the border to trigger a war that is not supposed to happen. Both sides are armed to the teeth with munitions being brought in to Ukraine by the Americans and Russian supply lines set up to fuel an army that once let loose will require resupply as a constant. This not to mention the remainder of the world markets at this time of wide spread pandemic that appears as a constant.

Karl

[Jaga]

Pieter,

this Fox piece had several errors. They also said that Ukraine was independent before WW II since Lenin declared it a republic. They did not mention starvation at the late 20s. They said that Scandinavian vikings created Kiev as a capital and then moved capital to Moscow?

Ukrainians are fierce and they were allied with Nazi, but this was also for the independence.